Ecological harm from internet forums

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So when I see the climate change activists start saving the world by living without computers and smartphones (just making them also causes pollution, along with those windmills), then I will take them more seriously.
 
At some point everything can be considered pollution. Every single human intakes oxygen and emits carbon dioxide. For me I think of it as, is the use justified in the cost. So for a forum or example, I think the environmental impact isn’t large considering the service it provides and offers. Just my .02, best regards
 
Education about the impact of our habits will go a long way to changing our greedy culture to a more a more holistic and connected, ecologically sensitive culture. For example just recently I learned that the hand sanitiser I carry around everywhere is eventually washing harmful chemicals into the environment so I’ve drastically changed how I use it. ie only in an emergency.
 
Really? Can you expand on that, Emeralady? So, it has a harmful side…I didn’t know that…
 
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A lot less energy would be consumed if opinion pieces like this were not published. Funny how only “other people” are wasting energy. Like driving a Subaru to save the planet - you can only save the planet by not driving.

A non-issue as I see it. Technology and efficiency are constantly improving.
 
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Many “man-made” climate change activists are merely trying to get control of everyone’s entire lives. They want to tell you what kind of car to drive, how much air conditioning to use, not to fly airplanes (except that THEY are permitted to take private jets to “man-made” climate change conferences), and whether you are permitted to have cows, etc. A sneaky way to advance fascism by using people who think they’re doing good. Saul Alinsky wrote about the “useful idiots”.
 
The amount of ecological harm is infinitesimal compared to dozens of other things we do in a typical day. Reducing how much we buy, choosing high mpg vehicles, driving less, etc. are some of the big things. Electricity from internet use - not so much.
 
Over 4% of total electricity generation from data centers is pretty impressive. I had no idea it would be nearly that high.

I don’t know in practice if anything truly drastic is going to change until people start dying in mass numbers from climate change.
 
I’ll admit I’m surprised it’s that high. I’m somewhat optimistic however. As efficiency increases (I’ve been seeing an increased emphasis on low power chips, data storage density, and increased use of renewable energy resources) that it might cap out reasonbly.
 
I wonder…are they looking at the energy usage of all the servers themselves or are they including the amount of cooling needed?

I know that many large storage companies…Amazon, Microsoft, Google, etc, are seeking better ways of cooling as well as the lower power chips and such…including underground storage, underwater storage. They pay the bills on this and definitely want to lower the costs!
 
I’m assuming it includes cooling, but why wouldn’t it? Servers make heat and they need to be cooled.

Some places are a lot better at this than others. Iceland is a popular place for data storage because if you want to cool the room down, you can open a window for much of the year.
 
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There is always going to come bad from most things.

I am not going to give up this forum because I know so many inspiring Catholics on here.
 
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