Economy/coronavirus?

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I am wondering if anyone can give me some actual insight of how the coronavirus is effecting the economy. I’m sooo stressed and anxious rn. We live in Washington and from what I’ve heard Seattle is a ghost town and jobs are being cut. One of my friends said people are going to die from the economic fallout. We have money saved but not enough for bills and food long-term. Not to mention my parents who pretty much have to work. I’m scared guys and praying honestly doesn’t seem to be making me feel better.
 
First off, try not to be stressed or panic. Yes, this is a pandemic, and yes, we have been through them before. Is it wrong to be concerned, no, but I think needless worry is not good also. Many people have been exposed to this virus, and we are seeing that many are recovering as well. The CDC and others are saying the elderly and some others are most at risk.

The economics of all this, I can’t tell you. I work for a hospital, so I know my job isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, but I know that may not be the case everywhere. Just stay close to God, and trust Him.

I know a number of years ago I was going through a really tough spot in my life. I thought everything was falling down around me, but then I remember having this realization while I was standing in my kitchen. I realized that as long as I had God in my life, all would be okay. The same goes for you and everyone.

Remember the immortal words of Thomas Merton…
My Lord God,
I have no idea where I am going.
I do not see the road ahead of me.
I cannot know for certain where it will end.
nor do I really know myself,
and the fact that I think I am following your will
does not mean that I am actually doing so.
But I believe that the desire to please you
does in fact please you.
And I hope I have that desire in all that I am doing.
I hope that I will never do anything apart from that desire.
And I know that if I do this you will lead me by the right road,
though I may know nothing about it.
Therefore will I trust you always though
I may seem to be lost and in the shadow of death.
I will not fear, for you are ever with me,
and you will never leave me to face my perils alone.
 
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I am wondering if anyone can give me some actual insight of how the coronavirus is effecting the economy.
I don’t think we know, there are many things changing daily.
We live in Washington and from what I’ve heard Seattle is a ghost town and jobs are being cut. One of my friends said people are going to die from the economic fallout.
I think that’s a little alarmist and not based in any facts.

Seattle may seem like a ghost town because most large companies are asking people to work from home to employ social distancing and large gatherings are being canceled. Plus many schools are on spring break right now.
We have money saved but not enough for bills and food long-term.
The potential impact financially really depends on the industry you and your spouse work in. A lot of this is short term, some things like travel industry may have longer term impacts.

A lot of this is fear-mongering.
I’m scared guys
Look to the CDC for facts on the virus.
 
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I do t have any answers, I’m in Ohio and our governer issued a state of emergency, contemplating shutting down k-12 soon. I dont feel afraid although I am trying to digest the fact that life is going g to be different for a while. I hope you find peace that only He can give. The bible mentions Be not afraid, 365 times. One for each day perhaps. The more trust we have in the Lord, the more merciful He is. God bless you and your family
 
I am wondering if anyone can give me some actual insight of how the coronavirus is effecting the economy.
A fuller answer … is rather complex…
I don’t know about dying… IMO - Authorities should have backup plans.
That said, Suffice to say that - unfortunately -
yes… it’s currently having a snowball effect upon the Economy. For at least awhile…

Also IMO - the actual impact of this Virus itself… may in a somewhat short spell -
show itself to have been not near as deadly in terms of actual deaths
than some have been led to believe.
and in which case. ‘things’ should settle down.

+_
 
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I’m scared guys and praying honestly doesn’t seem to be making me feel better.
One additional thing you can do is to offer your fear up.

Also consider that such panicking is not rational. It does not help you in any way. Perhaps some verses of Bible (like Matthew 6:34 - “Be not therefore solicitous for to morrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof.”, Psalm 90:5 “His truth shall compass thee with a shield: thou shalt not be afraid of the terror of the night.”) would help at least a little…?

There are also things you might try to do (or, perhaps even more importantly, to recommend to your friends, who are spreading panic 🙂), that might help, should any major problems arise, for example, growing some vegetables. Rather importantly, they would be likely to work as distractions.
I am wondering if anyone can give me some actual insight of how the coronavirus is effecting the economy.
One of my friends said people are going to die from the economic fallout.
It is true that an economic crisis is likely, but “economic crisis” does not instantly mean “people are going to die from the economic fallout” in the relevant sense (people are not going to just starve to death in great numbers any time soon).

Now the pandemic can harm the economy in several ways.

First, there is quarantine, which stops production in several sectors of economy. But the sectors of economy that are hit the hardest by quarantine (for example, tourism, sports) are not really all that essential. They mostly produce luxury goods, people can survive without them. Sectors like farming are not going to be hit by quarantine that badly.

Then there is the loss of purchasing power, when people don’t get wages for the work they used to perform in those sectors. But when that happens, demand for goods decreases. And when that happens, prices fall. It hurts the GDP, but mitigates the problems that might lead to starving to death.

Then there is disruption of supply chains. But many of most essential goods can be produced even if supply chains are disrupted. Sure, fertilizer helps to produce more food, but some food can be produced even without foreign-made fertilizer.

For that matter, the prices of products that those supply chains would have provided are going to rise, leading to increased manufacturing (and manufacturing jobs) locally.

And then there is lost productivity because of sickness. But it is the old people that get the most severe sickness, and they are likely to be retired. So, while things are not good, economy is not going to be affected that badly in this specific way.

After all, Great Depression did not lead to that many deaths either. Even in Soviet Union famine was not common, unless some government was actively causing it (as in case of Holodomor, Blockade of Leningrad).

So, things might not be great, but they are not as bad, as you and your friends fear.

For now, not spreading the virus is far more important than worrying about the economy.
 
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For now, not spreading the virus is far more important than worrying about the economy.
I agree…

However - the Economy and More - in many ways is coming to an almost halt as we type.

Our very culture is in the process of changing … at least for a spell.

School Districts are rapidly closing - store shelves are being wiped out - etc., etc.
 
I am wondering if anyone can give me some actual insight of how the coronavirus is effecting the economy.
Essentially, the impact to the economy is due to the disruption in global supply lines as various governments are taking action to help restrict the spread of the disease. So for example, China was forced to halt public transportation, and close major factories for periods of time in order to allow them to isolate the disease and prevent its spread in the community. Many other governments have followed suit. The result is that business who attract investors by predicting what their costs and revenue is expected to be on a month to month and quarterly basis are now hit with uncertainty as to what they will actually be able to predict. So for example, a cruise line who is shut down still has employees to pay, but now they have lost say a month or two of revenue. The economy will recover, we are just going to need to be patient.
 
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Remember, the common flu claims more people every year than this coronavirus has. It’s overhyped. Those most at risk are your typical elderly and small children. The biggest factor to be concerned about would be if you have pre-existing pulmonary issues (ie chronic smoker, asthma, etc)

As for how this would affect the economy, factories that shut down because workers are sick or management is trying to prevent spreading an infection, cant make goods. No goods = no money and sad customers. But all of this fear presents an opportunity to buy otherwise expensive companies at a discount.

When this all blows over (like zike, h1n1, SARS, etc) prices will normalize and profit will be made.
 
Seems to me we’re likely overreacting. Seems it would be best to just get the virus over with, though I can see some virtue in taking it fairly slowly so not everybody is sick at once. But all these closings, I am having trouble seeing the merit in them.

Right now I’m committed to a particular investment, but if I wasn’t, I would be buying stocks with both hands. Imagine TSN at $51.80! My stars! That’s the biggest meat producer in the world! Not long ago it was at $90. Look at USB, a perfectly sound bank, with a PE of 7 and a yield of 4.6%.
It’s pig heaven.
 
Don’t forget the airlines, they have been battered harder than a red headed step child, and are poised to make BIG returns.
 
Panic won’t help anything. I don’t think we can accurately estimate what the fallout will be, but if people don’t panic, and work together rather than see it as a competition against one another, we will make it through.

Sadly it has been politicized by both parties, which doesn’t help AT ALL. We need to pull together as one united team, the way this country did during the big wars etc. We have to understand that it will affect everyone in some way, and some will be hit harder than others.

I fear I will lose both my elderly parents, and that isn’t overhyping, it’s simply the reality of this disease. I have a brother in law undergoing chemo with a compromised immune system. His prospects of being cured of cancer are good, but the virus might get him first.

Things have changed, there is no doubt about it, and will continue to change. It’s fearful times, but people live through them in every generation, and this is our chance to show what we are made of. Our nation can survive intact if we make that a priority rather than sniping and blaming so that no one actually knows what is the truth and what it hype.

It’s already hit where I live. Schools and nursing homes closing, events cancelled, etc. It will definitely hit the economy, less so if people can resist hoarding and price gouging.

Churches can offer a supportive community for their members, even if services are cancelled, via their websites and the committees and groups they already have in place, which can be used to organize congregations to make sure that people are being cared for, have what they need, etc.

I say we should all pray for strength, faith, good information, and positive attitudes, understanding that yes, things will be significantly interrupted, but we have the where with all to handle it. We will learn much from this experience and I hope that we take those lessons and use them to build a stronger and more resilient society.
 
Remember, the common flu claims more people every year than this coronavirus has. It’s overhyped. Those most at risk are your typical elderly and small children.
Children are at low risk; adults have a much higher risk.

It’s not like the flu —its death rate is 10 times higher.
 
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I am wondering if anyone can give me some actual insight of how the coronavirus is effecting the economy.
Seeing how people are panicking over Coronivirus, I can see why the government doesn’t tell us anything about aliens!

Seriously, please don’t panic. We’re all in this together and we’ll get through it. Be strong for your family. Jesus, I trust in you!
 
I’m not sure whether to be glad or sad that I work in a hospital microbiology lab.

On the one hand, I will most definitely keep my job and my salary. Oh, will I keep my job! Already this week, I have put in an extra day of work (overtime!) because we have soooooo much work to do–corona virus is definitely making a lot of extra work! I will probably still be working even when everyone else in the hospital has been sent home–microbiology is kind of the “Top Gun Ninja Warrior Marines/Special Forces” fighting the virus.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind if I were one of those people who is told to “go home and sequester yourself.” (My daughter is currently in this situation.) I have a large stack of books that I haven’t found the time to read for months now. I have a basement full of junk that needs organizing and purging. I love watching TV, and we have a backlog of tivo-ed shows, plus all the seasons of “Modern Family” (except the last season) on DVD that we would love to binge watch! I have a website that I am trying to get around to update. Oh, yes, I could very happily “shelter in place” for weeks–usually the only time I get to stay home for extended periods of time is after I have surgery and feel awfull

So I am torn! Glad to have work and a salary, but wishing I could be released from work and sheltering in place at home.

But no matter what, please, just stay well, everyone!
 
I wonder how Corona would compare to a tough flu year where nobody had been vaccinated. The morbidity rate for flu remains low precisely because the majority of children and adults get flu shots every year. Even in years where they didn’t guess the right flu strains to use, the shot still provides a mitigation.
 
Children are at low risk; adults have a much higher risk.

It’s not like the flu —its death rate is 10 times higher.
Could be…

However the actual numbers of reported deaths is thus far FAR lower than previous Asian Flu’s
 
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