Ecumenical Councils and Matt. 18:15-20

[Roman_Army]

**Today’s readings was very interesting. It discussed excommunication and pointing out error. I was thinking that this scripture can also be used to defend the infallibility of Ecumenical Councils, their importance, and authority. Clearly here Jesus was talking about the apostles agreeing together in a group and did not just only mean to say that 2 or 3 lay faithful make up a church. **

15 “If your brother sins (against you), go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. 16 If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. 18 Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again, (amen,) I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything for which they are to pray, it shall be granted to them by my heavenly Father. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” -Matt. 18:15-20 (NAB)

Clearly in this passage Jesus is talking about the authority and infallibility of the Bishops together in Ecumenical Council. What do you think about this?

 

[dumspirospero]

I completely agree…This is the basis for our Church’s authority…The councils are infallible…they are protected by God’s promise…whatever they declare on earth as law, is law in Heaven.

**Today’s readings was very interesting. It discussed excommunication and pointing out error. I was thinking that this scripture can also be used to defend the infallibility of Ecumenical Councils, their importance, and authority. Clearly here Jesus was talking about the apostles agreeing together in a group and did not just only mean to say that 2 or 3 lay faithful make up a church. **

15 “If your brother sins (against you), go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. 16 If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. 18 Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again, (amen,) I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything for which they are to pray, it shall be granted to them by my heavenly Father. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” -Matt. 18:15-20 (NAB)

Clearly in this passage Jesus is talking about the authority and infallibility of the Bishops together in Ecumenical Council. What do you think about this?

 

[Catholic_Dude]

I use that passage against those who go by SS.