Is the service a Mass? A pastor from another communion cannot participate at the altar and pulpit in an LCMS divine worship (neither can a layman for that matter), but if one is having a discussion, a workshop, IOW not worship, she could well attend. I would think it similar in a Catholic parish.My question is this, we participate in something titled “Soup and Sermon”…some ecumenical movement where protestants churches all get together for fellowship during, or around holy week
But why is it that a Methodist female ‘pastor’ is allowed to give a sermon inside our Catholic Church?
Is this not hypocritical?
No it was not the Mass. It was just a service where a Methodist female pastor came in and was allowed to give a sermon. Seems weird to me, because female Catholics can’t be pastors or give homilies, but a female Methodist can.Is the service a Mass? A pastor from another communion cannot participate at the altar and pulpit in an LCMS divine worship (neither can a layman for that matter), but if one is having a discussion, a workshop, IOW not worship, she could well attend. I would think it similar in a Catholic parish.
Jon
Let me ask, because I don’t know, outside of a Mass, is it actually a homily, or was she simply a “guest speaker”?No it was not the Mass. It was just a service where a Methodist female pastor came in and was allowed to give a sermon. Seems weird to me, because female Catholics can’t be pastors or give homilies, but a female Methodist can.
Guest speaker. Our priest even went to their church and gave a sermon there another day of the week.Let me ask, because I don’t know, outside of a Mass, is it actually a homily, or was she simply a “guest speaker”?
Jon
It was not a Mass if its an ecumenical service. I was in a previous Catholic Parish where the priest hosted an ecumenical service on National Prayer Day or week of it and a male Lutheran ELCA Pastor came to speak. It wasn’t considered a sermon nor of course a homily. Our priest apparently spoke also at their parish as an exchange of sorts.My question is this, we participate in something titled “Soup and Sermon”…some ecumenical movement where protestants churches all get together for fellowship during, or around holy week
But why is it that a Methodist female ‘pastor’ is allowed to give a sermon inside our Catholic Church?
Is this not hypocritical?
I guess from my perspective, we also do not have female clergy, but I wouldn’t have a problem with her speaking as a guest speaker outside of a worship service. Perhaps Catholics may help you more with this.Guest speaker. Our priest even went to their church and gave a sermon there another day of the week.
That’s interesting. I’d like to visit during that Mass and listen to what the RC priests haveA local Anglican parish has had Roman Catholic priests preach at both Evensong and Mass.
Well I found it interesting too. Because it was an Anglican Mass. But it was the Dean of the local RC cathedral who preached, so presumably it was okayed by his Bishop. I wasn’t there at the time, so I’d be pretty sure that he didn’t wear eucharistic vestments or anything like that, just preached the sermon.That’s interesting. I’d like to visit during that Mass and listen to what the RC priests have
to say.
Does the Anglican parish send their pastor (s) to the RC parish as sort of an exchange?
Mary
I seriously doubt she gave a sermon,due to the fact only ordained men can give sermons.My question is this, we participate in something titled “Soup and Sermon”…some ecumenical movement where protestants churches all get together for fellowship during, or around holy week
But why is it that a Methodist female ‘pastor’ is allowed to give a sermon inside our Catholic Church?
Is this not hypocritical?
I overheard several people saying “that Methodist pastor sure gave a firey sermon”…one even said “brimstone and fire sermon”…I seriously doubt she gave a sermon,due to the fact only ordained men can give sermons.
Simply because some may have believed it is a sermon,it does not make it one.I overheard several people saying “that Methodist pastor sure gave a firey sermon”…one even said “brimstone and fire sermon”…
I understand that but what by definition is a sermon. shrug by dictionary meaning it was a sermon if what I heard others say was correctSimply because some may have believed it is a sermon,it does not make it one.
In the Catholic Church,again only ordained give sermons/homilies. That is why one never sees a lay person or nun giving the homily. Who reads the Gospels at Mass? The ordained only. Nuns may go up and talk about the retirement funds,missionary work,etc,etc.but they are not considered homilies.I understand that but what by definition is a sermon. shrug by dictionary meaning it was a sermon if what I heard others say was correct
The female Methodist pastor was invited to give a sermon inside our Catholic parish. I disagreed with it. That’s my whole point. The Mass was not involved at all. It was all outside of the Mass.In the Catholic Church,again only ordained give sermons/homilies. That is why one never sees a lay person or nun giving the homily. Who reads the Gospels at Mass? The ordained only. Nuns may go up and talk about the retirement funds,missionary work,etc,etc.but they are not considered homilies.
As JonNC stated the LC-MS does not allow pastors of Churches that are not in fellowship with the LC-MS preach in the church, let alone a woman pastor. Her giving a talk ( sermon ) in your church is wrong because her theology and world view is bound to be interwoven in her talk.The female Methodist pastor was invited to give a sermon inside our Catholic parish. I disagreed with it. That’s my whole point. The Mass was not involved at all. It was all outside of the Mass.
Who gave her permission? The pastor? If he did,it does not seem correct.The female Methodist pastor was invited to give a sermon inside our Catholic parish. I disagreed with it. That’s my whole point. The Mass was not involved at all. It was all outside of the Mass.
Yes. It’s all part of ecumenical week. The Methodists come to our parish to give a sermon and our priest goes to their church to give a sermon. Seems silly to me. Making it look like their is unity when there is none.Who gave her permission? The pastor? If he did,it does not seem correct.