I think it also important to inform people of Paul’s warning about not discerning His body, that one can eat and drink to condemnation. This is, in part, the pastoral care involved in close communion.
Jon
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I understand your point but can not conceive of how Christ’s mystical Body is not a miraculous gift to all who profess Him
It seems to me, then, that your issue is with St. Paul, one, and the Confessions, two.
Jon
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I think to favor widespread sacramental opportunities is more urgent in our world today.
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CopticChristian
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Yes,
How do you ask that there is common celebration of the Eucharist combined with your belief…
Women should be priests
Homosexuals are born gay and should be welcome with their partners
support of same sex marriage
your aligining yourself with Richard Rohr a Catholic dissident
How can you speak of commonality in the Eucharist when your thoughts on moral issues and proper service in the Church is skewed?
Does this not denigrate common celebration in Christ?
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CopticChristian
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Can you profess Christ and believe in…
Same sex marriage?
Women as priests?
Homosexuals born that way welcome in their gay lifestyle?
What does it mean to profess Christ if you accept immorality and thoughts contrary to Scripture and Tradition?
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Izdaari
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I do agree with the TEC and ELCA positions on the first three of those points, and since I’m a member of both, it’s certainly more harmonious within them that I do.
If someone is so strongly opposed to any or all of them that they feel they cannot in good conscience commune with us, I understand and bear them no ill will.
But I have never even heard of Richard Rohr.
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CopticChristian
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you would do well to not know anything about Richard Rohr.I do agree with the TEC and ELCA positions on the first three of those points, and since I’m a member of both, it’s certainly more harmonious within them that I do.
If someone is so strongly opposed to any or all of them that they feel they cannot in good conscience commune with us, I understand and bear them no ill will.
But I have never even heard of Richard Rohr.
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Izdaari
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I can and I do!
The first is for me a political and civil rights issue more than a theological matter.
I’m not used to thinking of women’s ordination as a liberal vs. conservative issue, since I come from Assemblies of God, a very conservative church that has always upheld gender equality in church positions. I left because it was too conservative for me, but I did and do agree with them on that particular issue.
It’s my understanding that welcoming everyone is the proper Christian position.
But I will not debate any of these here. As Mr. Miyagi said, “Too much advantage, your dojo.”
Even the US government (up to now) has properly recognized it as a religious issue. And certainly in the LCMS, all are welcomeI can and I do!
The first is for me a political and civil rights issue more than a theological matter.
I’m not used to thinking of women’s ordination as a liberal vs. conservative issue, since I come from Assemblies of God, a very conservative church that has always upheld gender equality in church positions. I left because it was too conservative for me, but I did and do agree with them on that particular issue.
It’s my understanding that welcoming everyone is the proper Christian position.
But I will not debate any of these here. As Mr. Miyagi said, “Too much advantage, your dojo.”
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When government decides who can and can’t get married, that’s political. In my state, WA, SSM was passed by the legislature, signed by the governor and confirmed by vote of the people in a referendum.
But I do think a church has every right to decide who they will and won’t marry.
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Gay marriage is allowed in my state also. Governor Cuomo, a Catholic, signed the legislation into law a year ago.
When did government get to define marriage, a sacrament/rite of the Church.
Government should get out of the marriage business and simply abide by the constitution.
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so then, do you support same sex marriage, since it is allowed in your state and Governor Cuomo, a Catholic signed it into legislation?
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Izdaari
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I agree. Government ought to get out of the marriage business. But until they do, it’s political. I also agree they should abide by the Constitution, but we’re a really long way from there.
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Izdaari
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I don’t know what EvangelCatholic will say, but I do support it. Despite my reflexive inclination to oppose anything Cuomo is for. I’m particularly horrified by his anti-gun law. I’m sure glad I don’t live in NY.
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The Episcopal church requires that people be baptized, many years ago they required that potential communicants be confirmed or at least be ready and willing to be confirmed next time the bishop showed up.
As for schismatic “Anglicans” in the continuum I have no idea, they likely disagree to some extent with each other.
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ConstantineTG
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Why do people want to receive Sacraments from a Church they do not fully agree with?
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Do you agree with every dogma? Does it matter? If we put up barriers to one another how can we be servants of Christ?
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