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This has nothing to do with my topic but i just want to squash this elephant first. So I’m supposed to be moving to a new town for university and I’m not sure who I should talk to about mass, campus ministry or the actual church. As far as I know they didn’t really leave much information on either of their websites except for a church email address and a campus ministry email address. My other option is just wait till I go and talk in person because I find emails to not answer everything I ask or I forget to ask something. But if.there are forms I’ve got to sign (and my other 2 churches I went to did have forms) then email will come I’m handy. That’s just a small query I have now the actual topic.
Has anyone been to a christening and a baptism and compared the two? They’re very similar but I guess that also depends on the type of church your visiting too for a christening. I know some churches don’t do them. My cousin who is catholic just had her baby baptized and it was similar to the christening I went to at my moms church. Both babies wore white, there was oil used at both, they both had godparents present, and some other similatities. It seemed that the main difference was the water and ill get to that later. Now I know for a fact that a christening is not the same thing as a baptism and is not considered a baptism in anyway but the thing that the pastor at the christening said that was a big “huh?” To me was,and I quote, “This is not a baptism, there is a difference. We don’t believe in infant baptism because it is unscriptural.” Well I haven’t really read any scriptures that say you must christen them instead. In fact the whole christening seems to be based on the sacrament of baptism. It seems silly to make that claim because to deny a child baptism would be denying them heaven really.
The argument is that baptism should be done at the age of understanding and a baby couldn’t understand so it would be pointless but that’s what confirmation is for. A christening is pretty much an agreement saying your going to raise your child in church so that they will eventually get baptized I guess? But is it because they are unaware of confirmation or what? Because a child gets confirmed when they are able to understand. Some do it at 13 some at 16 but it is the child’s choice at that point. The baptism is the obligation of the parents really just like a christening. Both are professing the faith on the childs behalf by the parents.
Another reason is that they say baptism should done by having the body fully immersed in water but what ive learned was the only baptism thatbis valid is the one that baptize in the Father, Son, Holy spirit other wise it is invalid. And lastly i was reading some comments on a blog and one person said “i hate the fact that im one of God’s children Im a satanist and i was born catholic.” The arguement is that parents should let their child choose. Well i was born catholic and just because i was baptized doesnt make me a catholic per say. But a christening isn’t a child’s choice their I had both done.
I feel that catholics that leave because they don’t believe what the church teaches is probably partly due to the lack understanding they got when they were younger. Whether they were just sleeping in church or their parents just didn’t really explain things to them outside church. Whatever the reason I think that if parents are going to profess their children’s faith and then let them choose later I would really be an advocate for continuing the learning at home.
Now my main point was that a christening and a baptism are different but they mean very similar things but they do have their differences. But a christening is no more a choice than a baptism. The child that got christened is going to profess their own faith when they get baptized and the child baptized with do the same at confirmation. So really there shouldn’t be an argument saying baptizing a child is wrong or pointless. Thats just my opinion. I’d really like to hear yours. I’m no bible scholar or religious expert but I can share my own personal experiences and other things ive researched.
Has anyone been to a christening and a baptism and compared the two? They’re very similar but I guess that also depends on the type of church your visiting too for a christening. I know some churches don’t do them. My cousin who is catholic just had her baby baptized and it was similar to the christening I went to at my moms church. Both babies wore white, there was oil used at both, they both had godparents present, and some other similatities. It seemed that the main difference was the water and ill get to that later. Now I know for a fact that a christening is not the same thing as a baptism and is not considered a baptism in anyway but the thing that the pastor at the christening said that was a big “huh?” To me was,and I quote, “This is not a baptism, there is a difference. We don’t believe in infant baptism because it is unscriptural.” Well I haven’t really read any scriptures that say you must christen them instead. In fact the whole christening seems to be based on the sacrament of baptism. It seems silly to make that claim because to deny a child baptism would be denying them heaven really.
The argument is that baptism should be done at the age of understanding and a baby couldn’t understand so it would be pointless but that’s what confirmation is for. A christening is pretty much an agreement saying your going to raise your child in church so that they will eventually get baptized I guess? But is it because they are unaware of confirmation or what? Because a child gets confirmed when they are able to understand. Some do it at 13 some at 16 but it is the child’s choice at that point. The baptism is the obligation of the parents really just like a christening. Both are professing the faith on the childs behalf by the parents.
Another reason is that they say baptism should done by having the body fully immersed in water but what ive learned was the only baptism thatbis valid is the one that baptize in the Father, Son, Holy spirit other wise it is invalid. And lastly i was reading some comments on a blog and one person said “i hate the fact that im one of God’s children Im a satanist and i was born catholic.” The arguement is that parents should let their child choose. Well i was born catholic and just because i was baptized doesnt make me a catholic per say. But a christening isn’t a child’s choice their I had both done.
I feel that catholics that leave because they don’t believe what the church teaches is probably partly due to the lack understanding they got when they were younger. Whether they were just sleeping in church or their parents just didn’t really explain things to them outside church. Whatever the reason I think that if parents are going to profess their children’s faith and then let them choose later I would really be an advocate for continuing the learning at home.
Now my main point was that a christening and a baptism are different but they mean very similar things but they do have their differences. But a christening is no more a choice than a baptism. The child that got christened is going to profess their own faith when they get baptized and the child baptized with do the same at confirmation. So really there shouldn’t be an argument saying baptizing a child is wrong or pointless. Thats just my opinion. I’d really like to hear yours. I’m no bible scholar or religious expert but I can share my own personal experiences and other things ive researched.
