EDITED: Do we receive the Holy Trinity in Communion?

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Do we also receive the Father and Holy Spirit in addition to Christ in receiving Holy Communion?

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In the Holy Eucharist, we recieve the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

Since we recieve His Divinity, we also recieve the Divinity of the Father, and of the Holy Spirit, It cannot be any other way, as there is only one God, and thus only one Divinity to recieve.
 
joshrp said:
Hi,

Do we also receive the Father and Holy Spirit in addition to Christ in receiving Holy Communion?

Joshua
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I see it as if I am to become a member of the mystical body of Christ, to receive him, I might hopefully one day be but a “quark”,…smaller than an electron, but fed by the blood of the Holy Spirit who nourishes all the cells of the body of our Lord. The Holy Spirit is the blood that feeds the body of our Lord. Amazing for this small mind. 🙂
 
Wherever Jesus Christ is, there is also the Father, and the Holy Spirit. They are one.
 
joshrp said:
Hi,

Do we also receive the Father and Holy Spirit in addition to Christ in receiving Holy Communion?

Joshua
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Just speculation:
I think we just receive Christ. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Spirit, and the Spirit is not the Father. Their connection is that they are all G-d, the same essence.

We may receive the Father and the Spirit if we receive the ousia, or essence, of G-d through receiving Christ, but even then one would have to assume that one receives the person of the Father and the person of the Spirit through the reception of the essence of G-d.

All of those things are assumptions, and as far as I know my statements are in line with the Church. I’ll try to remember to check my Ludwig Ott tomorrow morning to see if he has anything to say on the subject.
 
No we don’t. The flesh of Christ binds our own flesh to His and through His divinity we are bound to God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
 
bmadamsberry said:
Just speculation:
I think we just receive Christ. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Spirit, and the Spirit is not the Father. Their connection is that they are all G-d, the same essence…
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No, whereever Christ is, so is the Father, and the Spirit. The Trinity is Unity. There can be no seperation.

As I mentioned above, since we recieve the Divinity of Christ in the Eucharist, there is only one Divinity. Christ does not have His own Divinity, the Father another one, and the Spirit a third seperate Divinity.

That would mean that there are three Gods. There are not.

The Trinity has a distinction in Personhood, but not in Divinity. We recieve the Personhood of the Son (His Body, Blood and Soul), but the Divinity we recieve is that of the entire Godhead.
 
Brendan said:
No, whereever Christ is, so is the Father, and the Spirit. The Trinity is Unity. There can be no seperation.

As I mentioned above, since we recieve the Divinity of Christ in the Eucharist, there is only one Divinity. Christ does not have His own Divinity, the Father another one, and the Spirit a third seperate Divinity.

That would mean that there are three Gods. There are not.

The Trinity has a distinction in Personhood, but not in Divinity. We recieve the Personhood of the Son (His Body, Blood and Soul), but the Divinity we recieve is that of the entire Godhead.
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Are you equating divinity with essence? Divinity is sometimes, though not always, used to refer to the essence of G-d (an example of it not being used: theosis, or becoming divine. Obviously, we do not become G-d, but like G-d/G-d like… in other words, we become divine). If divinity means here “essence of G-d,” then you’re right and I’m wrong. If it means “quality of G-d,” then you may still be right and I may still be wrong.

I am just weary about equating the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as the same persons, and stating that by receiving the person of the Son, we also receive the person of the Father and the person of the Spirit.

Maybe there are actual documents that answer this question, instead of our theological speculation.
 
It may be that “receive” is not the right word to use in the question here. I would say it’s more that we gain access to the Father because as Christ said “No one can come to the Father except through me” (John 14:6) Also “Because in him, we both have access by One Spirit to The Father.” Ephesians 2:18 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
 
ProVobis said:
It may be that “receive” is not the right word to use here. I would say it’s more that we gain access to the Father because as Christ said “No one can come to the Father except through me” (John 14:6) Also “Because in him, we both have access by One Spirit to The Father.” Ephesians 2:18 (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
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I think that sounds good. We receive Christ, and gain access to the Father and Spirit through the reception of the Eucharist.
 
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