EDITED: Which parish should I register as a member at?/belong to?

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For many years, I did belong to my parents’ church but I do not live close to it to attend Mass on a regular basis. When I was living out of town, I registered and attended Mass at a local parish also but I also had a much more consistent work schedule then.

I’ve moved back to my hometown where I did go to my parents church as it was closest to home. My current home is further away with a church about 5 minutes away from my home. However, my work schedule does not allow me to get there in time for Mass there on Saturday evenings, and Sunday morning I am required to work. I have found a parish that is a 5 minute drive from work on my way home so I go to Mass leaving directly from the office. I have tended go to Mass at a church closest to work or if traveling nearest my destination, or out of town for Extra Ordinary Form Mass as my diocese is yet to offer it.

Should I register at:
  1. My childhood church where my parents still attend and I sometimes go to from time to time mainly for some special occasions, some times for normal obligation, and some holy days.
  2. The neighborhood church 5 minutes from my home but a much longer drive to get to for Saturday evening Mass from the office on time (on time to me means 5-10 minutes before Mass starts not with 2 minutes to spare).
  3. The church that is 5 minutes drive on the way home from work / the office for Saturday evening Mass where I have been going to for the past month or so.
 
For many years, I did belong to my parents’ church but I do not live close to it to attend Mass on a regular basis. When I was living out of town, I registered and attended Mass at a local parish also but I also had a much more consistent work schedule then.

I’ve moved back to my hometown where I did go to my parents church as it was closest to home. My current home is further away with a church about 5 minutes away from my home. However, my work schedule does not allow me to get there in time for Mass there on Saturday evenings, and Sunday morning I am required to work. I have found a parish that is a 5 minute drive from work on my way home so I go to Mass leaving directly from the office. I have tended go to Mass at a church closest to work or if traveling nearest my destination, or out of town for Extra Ordinary Form Mass as my diocese is yet to offer it.

Should I register at:
  1. My childhood church where my parents still attend and I sometimes go to from time to time mainly for some special occasions, some times for normal obligation, and some holy days.
  2. The neighborhood church 5 minutes from my home but a much longer drive to get to for Saturday evening Mass from the office on time (on time to me means 5-10 minutes before Mass starts not with 2 minutes to spare).
  3. The church that is 5 minutes drive on the way home from work / the office for Saturday evening Mass where I have been going to for the past month or so.
There are actually 2 different issues here.

Parish membership and parish registration are 2 very different (though related) things.

Your parish is the parish where you have a residence. So, regardless of where you actually attend, you are a member of the parish where you live. This holds true regardless of whether or not you are registered there, and regardless of whether or not you are “registered” at any other parish(es).

Registration does not make you a parishioner of a parish.

Registration is nothing more than an administrative tool used by the parish staff to keep certain records. One of those is your weekly donations. If you plan to donate to a church regularly, it’s a good idea to do something to allow them to keep track so they can issue a tax receipt at the end of the year. Just keep in mind that doing so won’t make you a member of the parish.

Your own parish is the parish where you live. Just like your city/town or county or state depends entirely upon where you live within the “borders” the same holds for your parish.

Most likely the parish where you are a member is the one that you say is about 5 minutes from where you live. It’s likely but not certain as it all depends upon what are the boundaries of each parish.

Be forewarned that this topic comes up rather often here, and you’re likely to get responses from people who either don’t understand canon law or choose to ignore it, or worse yet, advise you to ignore canon law.

Here are the canons that apply:

Can. 515 §1. A parish is a certain community of the Christian faithful stably constituted in a particular church, whose pastoral care is entrusted to a pastor (parochus) as its proper pastor (pastor) under the authority of the diocesan bishop.

Can. 518 As a general rule a parish is to be territorial, that is, one which includes all the Christian faithful of a certain territory. When it is expedient, however, personal parishes are to be established determined by reason of the rite, language, or nationality of the Christian faithful of some territory, or even for some other reason.

Can. 107 §1. Through both domicile and quasi-domicile, each person acquires his or her pastor and ordinary.

Can. 100 A person is said to be: a resident (incola) in the place where the person has a domicile; a temporary resident (advena) in the place where the person has a quasi-domicile; a traveler (peregrinus) if the person is outside the place of a domicile or quasi-domicile which is still retained; a transient (vagus) if the person does not have a domicile or quasi- domicile anywhere.

Can. 102 §1. Domicile is acquired by that residence within the territory of a certain parish or at least of a diocese, which either is joined with the intention of remaining there permanently unless called away or has been protracted for five complete years.
§2. Quasi-domicile is acquired by residence within the territory of a certain parish or at least of a diocese, which either is joined with the intention of remaining there for at least three months unless called away or has in fact been protracted for three months.
§3. A domicile or quasi-domicile within the territory of a parish is called parochial; within the territory of a diocese, even though not within a parish, diocesan.

Can. 519 The pastor (parochus) is the proper pastor (pastor) of the parish entrusted to him, exercising the pastoral care of the community committed to him under the authority of the diocesan bishop in whose ministry of Christ he has been called to share, so that for that same community he carries out the functions of teaching, sanctifying, and governing, also with the cooperation of other presbyters or deacons and with the assistance of lay members of the Christian faithful, according to the norm of law.

vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_INDEX.HTM
 
By canon law, you belong to your geographic parish, which may or may not be the one 5 minutes away. If you were to die, your parents could undoubtedly arrange to have your funeral at their parish, though. Likewise, if you were to marry, it could normally be arranged for you to marry at the church at which you were a member during your childhood, particularly if your parents still go there.

You can ask at the local chancery office if it is the bishop’s policy that those who register at a non-geographic parish be treated as if that were their geographical parish, or if people are supposed to register at and support their geographic parish. You have rights at your geographical parish, but the bishop can specify conditions under which the pastors in his jurisdiction give members of the faithful the same access to the sacraments and so on at a different parish in his diocese. Or he might not. I think you arguably have a good reason to be made an exception to the rule.

I know you are terribly busy, but try to become active somewhere beyond weekly attendance at Mass (I trust that as a employed person, you are contributing, too), even if you just contribute cookies to the Altar Society bake sale. Something. It’s a start. In your case, being active where it is possible certainly beats being inactive where it would be ideal.
 
I do thank you both for your responses so far that I’ve during my quick break. I will read them more thoroughly when at home later.

Yes, I do place a contribution in the collection basket, cash, no matter which church I am attending Mass at that day regardless to give to the parish. My small amount at the end of the year would not make a lot of difference tax deduction wise.

Yes, I do my best to contribute to outreach efforts like 2nd collections / donations of items like food either in my geographic parish (when I have been able to be there), the parish I am visiting & attending currently by work, parishes I go to when traveling, or even the one my parents attend (my childhood church).

I do go to various Catholic local parishes to pray the rosary in a public setting, go to Confession, and Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament.

I am glad my parish of my childhood had no issues with me not being formally registered at a parish when I was a Godparent/Sponsor for my sister’s kids when they were received into the church a few years ago. The people who did the program knew me going back often to childhood, and know I am a practicing Catholic etc.
 
There are actually 2 different issues here.

Parish membership and parish registration are 2 very different (though related) things.

Your parish is the parish where you have a residence. So, regardless of where you actually attend, you are a member of the parish where you live. This holds true regardless of whether or not you are registered there, and regardless of whether or not you are “registered” at any other parish(es).

Registration does not make you a parishioner of a parish.

Registration is nothing more than an administrative tool used by the parish staff to keep certain records. One of those is your weekly donations. If you plan to donate to a church regularly, it’s a good idea to do something to allow them to keep track so they can issue a tax receipt at the end of the year. Just keep in mind that doing so won’t make you a member of the parish.

Your own parish is the parish where you live. Just like your city/town or county or state depends entirely upon where you live within the “borders” the same holds for your parish.

Most likely the parish where you are a member is the one that you say is about 5 minutes from where you live. It’s likely but not certain as it all depends upon what are the boundaries of each parish.

Be forewarned that this topic comes up rather often here, and you’re likely to get responses from people who either don’t understand canon law or choose to ignore it, or worse yet, advise you to ignore canon law…
Just to clarify: While a person runs certain risks by ignoring canon law with regards to membership in a parish, it does not mean that acting as if one were a parishioner in a parish other than one’s geographic parish necessarily constitutes some sort of wrong-doing.

I’m an advocate of being active in one’s geographic parish. I called the chancery office of the Archdiocese of Portland in 1995 or so, and asked what parish the lot we were to build our new home on was in. I think I could have knocked the person on the other end of the phone over with a feather. She replied that I could just choose a parish and go there. She did look up what parish our new home was in, and that is where we have been active ever since.

In the funeral policy of the Archdiocese, it states: Parish clergy should make a reasonable effort to respond to the request of any family requesting a funeral even if they are not members of the parish. He may inform the proper pastor when appropriate. When it is not possible to respond to a family’s request, the priest/deacon should assist them in contacting their proper parish or a priest able to assist the family.

In the marriage policy, it states:
1 . Parish Clergy must honor the right of those Catholics living within their parish to marry and may not add restrictions or requirements to those already defined in Canon Law.
2. For the purpose of celebrating weddings, Catholics who live outside the parish boundaries, but regularly worship at that particular parish, should be regarded as having “domicile” in the parish.
3. Parish clergy should make a reasonable effort to accept the request of a couple living outside their parish to marry unless this would make it impossible to provide adequate opportunities for their own parishioners to marry in their proper parish. He may request the permission of the proper pastor of either party. When it is not possible to accommodate a couple’s request to marry in his parish, the priest/deacon should refer them to their proper parish or to a priest or church able to accommodate their request…


Likewise, the parishes in our vicariate are* currently* accomodating with regards to where children and young people go to receive religious education and preparation for the sacraments. They do not currently have a policy of “You live in this geographic area, so you must prepare in St. Y Parish.” Rather, the policy is, “If you want to educate your child and bring him or her up in the faith, we are going to bend over backwards to help you do that.” (Whether the young people have to show up for their First Reconciliation, First Holy Communion, or Confirmation at their geographic parish, I have no idea.) If a family wants to support the parish of St. X instead of the parish of St. Y, well, the thinking seems to be, at least they are supporting and active somewhere, which is better than the average!

So while canon law allows a diocese to require that people to receive the sacraments and funerals at their geographical parish whenever it is possible, in practice the desire that all the Catholics actually go to Mass regularly and participate actively in the life of the Church sometimes leads to a far more flexible policy. You have a right to receive the sacraments in your geographical parish, but not every bishop makes an issue of restricting that access as much as canon law allows.

Having said that, flexibility comes and goes. If you want certainty, support and be an active member of your geographic parish and plan to use that parish to avail yourself of the sacraments. That is a course you can depend on.
 
I do thank you both for your responses so far that I’ve during my quick break. I will read them more thoroughly when at home later.

Yes, I do place a contribution in the collection basket, cash, no matter which church I am attending Mass at that day regardless to give to the parish. My small amount at the end of the year would not make a lot of difference tax deduction wise.

Yes, I do my best to contribute to outreach efforts like 2nd collections / donations of items like food either in my geographic parish (when I have been able to be there), the parish I am visiting & attending currently by work, parishes I go to when traveling, or even the one my parents attend (my childhood church).

I do go to various Catholic local parishes to pray the rosary in a public setting, go to Confession, and Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament.

I am glad my parish of my childhood had no issues with me not being formally registered at a parish when I was a Godparent/Sponsor for my sister’s kids when they were received into the church a few years ago. The people who did the program knew me going back often to childhood, and know I am a practicing Catholic etc.
You might look into electronic contributions. We have an auto-deduct to support our parish, so that the weekends we go somewhere else, they can still depend on our contribution back home.

As Fr. David pointed out, though, parish registration doesn’t achieve anything in a canonical sense. If you have geographical domicile in a particular parish, by right you are a parishioner there. That is the safest route. IMHO, the geographic parish does have some reasonable expectation parishioners will expect to exercise both duties and rights, when that is reasonably possible. Registration at your non-geographic parish gets you what the current bishop and current pastors of the respective parishes decide it gets you at the time the question arises.

If you want to establish “regular worship”, because in your diocese this concept holds some sway when you attend a parish other than your parish of domicile, it makes sense to register. This would be something to discuss with the pastors of the respective parishes. They know what the rules of operation *currently *are, and they will be able to tell you whether they want you registered at the geographic parish only, at the parish where circumstances puts you most weekends, or at both. I will guarantee this much: They’ll want you to register somewhere!!
 
Here’s something I never really thought about – are there rules regarding which parish I should belong to? My wife and I belong to a parish about 20 minutes from where we live; we’ve been members for about three or four years, and we were married there. My concern stems from Canon 107, which states: “The proper pastor of one who has only a diocesan domicile or quasi-domicile is the pastor of the place where the person is actually residing.”

There are parishes closer to where we live, but we like our current church, and the pastor at the church nearest our home really isn’t all that orthodox. Are we violating canon law by not belonging to the parish where we live?
 
Here’s something I never really thought about – are there rules regarding which parish I should belong to? My wife and I belong to a parish about 20 minutes from where we live; we’ve been members for about three or four years, and we were married there. My concern stems from Canon 107, which states: “The proper pastor of one who has only a diocesan domicile or quasi-domicile is the pastor of the place where the person is actually residing.”

There are parishes closer to where we live, but we like our current church, and the pastor at the church nearest our home really isn’t all that orthodox. Are we violating canon law by not belonging to the parish where we live?
You can go to the one that is farther away, even though it is not your proper parish. The proper parish has a particular importance though, because that is where your proper pastor resides and from which you have your proper ordinary (bishop). Unless you are right on a border of a diocese, the proper ordinary will likely be the same.

There are some canons on these matters.

This is indexed so you can look up “proper”.

intratext.com/x/eng0017.htm
 
The ordinary is the same for both parishes, but what role or function would my proper parish and pastor have? Do I need to defer to him for anything?
 
The ordinary is the same for both parishes, but what role or function would my proper parish and pastor have? Do I need to defer to him for anything?
The question is, can one have a choice of proper parish since there are many in a diocese? I believe it is more along the lines that if you live in the territory of a parish then you have certain rights there that you do not have elsewhere.

Basically for permissions related to the Holy Sacraments other than Penance and Eucharist, and for transfer to another Church sui iuris, and for matters reserved to the ordinary (absolution of certain sins). The proper parish is obligated to handle some matters of its members based upon domicile or quasi-domicile, and for people on the move. (Sacramental records and permissions for matrimony; proper pastor of the bride must sign certain documents.) There are also non-territorial parishes called personal parishes with membership by being in the group for which it is created. Not so simple. Some of the canons are:

Can. 107 §1 Both through domicile and through quasi-domicile everyone acquires his or her own parish priest and Ordinary.
§2 The proper parish priest or Ordinary of a vagus is the parish priest or Ordinary of the place where the vagus is actually residing.
§3 The proper parish priest of one who has only a diocesan domicile or quasi-domicile is the parish priest of the place where that person is actually residing.
Can. 857 §1 Apart from a case of necessity, the proper place for baptism is a church or an oratory.

§2 As a rule and unless a just reason suggests otherwise, an adult is to be baptised in his or her proper parish church, and an infant in the proper parish church of the parents.

Can. 1003 §1 Every priest, but only a priest, can validly administer the anointing of the sick.

§2 All priests to whom has been committed the care of souls, have the obligation and the right to administer the anointing of the sick to those of the faithful entrusted to their pastoral care. For a reasonable cause, any other priest may administer this sacrament if he has the consent, at least presumed, of the aforementioned priest.
§3 Any priest may carry the holy oil with him, so that in a case of necessity he can administer the sacrament of anointing of the sick.

Can. 1115 Marriages are to be celebrated in the parish in which either of the contracting parties has a domicile or a quasi-domicile or a month’s residence or, if there is question of vagi, in the parish in which they are actually residing. With the permission of the proper Ordinary or the proper parish priest, marriages may be celebrated elsewhere.

Can. 1177 §1 The funeral of any deceased member of the faithful should normally be celebrated in the church of that person’s proper parish.
§2 However, any member of the faithful, or those in charge of the deceased person’s funeral, may choose another church; this requires the consent of whoever is in charge of that church and a notification to the proper parish priest of the deceased.
 
The shortage of priests has sometimes led to confusing situations with regards to one’s parish.

When I was growing up, the town next door had two geographic parishes and you could usually depend on people living north of a certain street to attend one parish and those living south of that street to attend the other. After Vat. II, each parish offered a choice of English, French or bilingual Masses.

About 15 years ago, the decline in the number of priests available in the diocese precipitated a change. Those two parishes were realigned along linguistic lines. One became English; the other became French. Now if you lived in the town you had to decide whether you were going to keep going to a Mass in your own language or keep going to Mass at the church next door. And where were you supposed to register if, like our family, the wife spoke one language and the husband the other? Yes, yes, I know, Latin would have solved all that but be realistic, Latin wasn’t going to happen.

Sadly, a few years later, each of these Pastors became responsible for three other language-based parishes, including my own village’s parish. We went from a daily Mass and a Sunday Mass on Saturday evening and one on Sunday morning to two Masses a week: one on Wednesday evening and one at 7 p.m. on Saturday.

Unfortunately, if you just happen to be in the area on a Sunday, you may spend your morning going from one church to another to try to find one which actually has a Mass being celebrated, as happened when I went back home two years ago and arrived too late on Saturday to attend the Mass in my village. I finally figured out that, instead of the multiple Sunday Masses at each parish that I’d been used to, there was now only one Sunday Mass at each parish and you had to figure out which celebrated theirs on Sunday and which celebrated on Saturday evening. The largest parish, my default parish if for some reason I couldn’t attend Mass in my village, now celebrated its Mass at 4 p.m. on Saturday and in the the town where, even 10 years ago, there had been 4 Masses on any given Sunday there was now only 1.
 
Kepha15, you’re happy at this parish? It would make sense to me to go to the parish that you’re happy with. And you have a history. If it works for you, that’s awesome. IMHO
 
Here’s something I never really thought about – are there rules regarding which parish I should belong to? My wife and I belong to a parish about 20 minutes from where we live; we’ve been members for about three or four years, and we were married there. My concern stems from Canon 107, which states: “The proper pastor of one who has only a diocesan domicile or quasi-domicile is the pastor of the place where the person is actually residing.”

There are parishes closer to where we live, but we like our current church, and the pastor at the church nearest our home really isn’t all that orthodox. Are we violating canon law by not belonging to the parish where we live?
It’s not a question of “which parish should I belong to?” because a parish is a territory, not a building. Technically, it is the people living in a given territory.

You are welcome to go to Mass anywhere you choose.

But your actual parish of membership is defined by where you live.

Here’s an example from the secular world. Let’s say that you happen to live near a state line. How would you determine which one is “your” state (I mean legally, not emotionally)? The answer is quite simple. It would be determined by which side of that state line you actually reside. You are free to do your grocery shopping anywhere you choose. You can feed the pigeons at the park anywhere you choose. You can socialize on either or both sides of the state line. Etc. etc. However, when it comes time to renew your drivers license, or time to vote in an election, you can do so only in your state of residence. You can’t go to a polling place in the other state and say “I spend so much time here, I want to vote for governor here instead of the state where I live.” Can’t do it.

Catholic parishes are territories. Most people think of parishes in terms of a building. By that I mean that if someone asks “where is St. Mary’s parish?” the usual answer would come out something like “the corner of Main and Market.” But that’s not how it works. St. Mary’s parish is actually the territory bordered by the river on the west, the city limits on the east, 52nd Street on the south, and the old railroad tracks on the north. That’s how parishes are defined–territories.

A parish is not something that one actively “chooses” but a parish is pre-determined by where you actually have a home. You can change parishes anytime you want, but the only way to do it is to gather your things and move into that parish territory by setting up a new residence.

Even though you don’t realize it, you actually are a member/parishioner of the parish where you live, regardless of where you go to Mass, and completely independent of whether or not you are “registered” anywhere or nowhere.

This misunderstanding is worsened by the concept of registration. Parish registration actually means nothing other than the fact that your name and some information is on a piece of paper or in some database. Registration does not make a Catholic a member of any parish. So, there’s nothing in canon law that requires a Catholic to register in his proper parish, and there’s nothing preventing a Catholic from registering in a parish other-than his own proper parish. This holds because registration itself is meaningless in the end. Registration doesn’t make one a parishioner any more than attending an ice cream social makes one a parishioner.

There are indeed times when ones proper parish and proper pastor are very relevant indeed; times like baptisms, weddings and even funerals. For example, when you die, you have a right to be buried in your own proper parish church (ok, corpses don’t have rights but you get the point–lest someone jump all over me for that). You have a right to get married in your own proper parish (your children do/will). You “might” be able to do these things in another parish; but then again, you might not. There are no guarantees that when the time comes, you will be able to make use of the parish church if if isn’t your own parish church.

A lot of folks here at CAF like to respond to questions like yours (and this comes up on a fairly regular basis) with something like “it doesn’t matter” or “I do as I please, and I’ve never had any problems” None of that will actually change canon law.

The exception to the above is what the Church calls “personal parishes.” No, that doesn’t mean “private property” but it means that a parish is defined by the “persons” rather than the territory. We usually see this in ethnic parishes, or more recently in the Extraordinary Form (Latin Mass) parishes. These are the exception to territories, and provision is made for this in canon law itself. Sometimes (though rarely) parish territories might even overlap a bit.

I’ll quote your original concluding question: “Are we violating canon law by not belonging to the parish where we live?” The proper response is actually that the question itself doesn’t make sense. You already “belong to” the parish where you live, even though you might be attending or even registered at, the parish other-than the one where you are a member. No, attending there doesn’t violate canon law. You do need to be aware that even though the situation might not cause any problems at the present, sometime in the future when it comes to something that requires you to go to (or through) your own proper parish or your own proper pastor you might very well encounter some difficulties.

If you need to see them, I can post the relevant canons. I’ve posted them so many times here on CAF that I’m about ready to just save them as a word processor doc to save some time;)
 
It’s not a question of “which parish should I belong to?” because a parish is a territory, not a building. Technically, it is the people living in a given territory.

You are welcome to go to Mass anywhere you choose.

But your actual parish of membership is defined by where you live.

Here’s an example from the secular world. Let’s say that you happen to live near a state line. How would you determine which one is “your” state (I mean legally, not emotionally)? The answer is quite simple. It would be determined by which side of that state line you actually reside. You are free to do your grocery shopping anywhere you choose. You can feed the pigeons at the park anywhere you choose. You can socialize on either or both sides of the state line. Etc. etc. However, when it comes time to renew your drivers license, or time to vote in an election, you can do so only in your state of residence. You can’t go to a polling place in the other state and say “I spend so much time here, I want to vote for governor here instead of the state where I live.” Can’t do it.

Catholic parishes are territories. Most people think of parishes in terms of a building. By that I mean that if someone asks “where is St. Mary’s parish?” the usual answer would come out something like “the corner of Main and Market.” But that’s not how it works. St. Mary’s parish is actually the territory bordered by the river on the west, the city limits on the east, 52nd Street on the south, and the old railroad tracks on the north. That’s how parishes are defined–territories.

A parish is not something that one actively “chooses” but a parish is pre-determined by where you actually have a home. You can change parishes anytime you want, but the only way to do it is to gather your things and move into that parish territory by setting up a new residence.

Even though you don’t realize it, you actually are a member/parishioner of the parish where you live, regardless of where you go to Mass, and completely independent of whether or not you are “registered” anywhere or nowhere.

This misunderstanding is worsened by the concept of registration. Parish registration actually means nothing other than the fact that your name and some information is on a piece of paper or in some database. Registration does not make a Catholic a member of any parish. So, there’s nothing in canon law that requires a Catholic to register in his proper parish, and there’s nothing preventing a Catholic from registering in a parish other-than his own proper parish. This holds because registration itself is meaningless in the end. Registration doesn’t make one a parishioner any more than attending an ice cream social makes one a parishioner.

There are indeed times when ones proper parish and proper pastor are very relevant indeed; times like baptisms, weddings and even funerals. For example, when you die, you have a right to be buried in your own proper parish church (ok, corpses don’t have rights but you get the point–lest someone jump all over me for that). You have a right to get married in your own proper parish (your children do/will). You “might” be able to do these things in another parish; but then again, you might not. There are no guarantees that when the time comes, you will be able to make use of the parish church if if isn’t your own parish church.

A lot of folks here at CAF like to respond to questions like yours (and this comes up on a fairly regular basis) with something like “it doesn’t matter” or “I do as I please, and I’ve never had any problems” None of that will actually change canon law.

The exception to the above is what the Church calls “personal parishes.” No, that doesn’t mean “private property” but it means that a parish is defined by the “persons” rather than the territory. We usually see this in ethnic parishes, or more recently in the Extraordinary Form (Latin Mass) parishes. These are the exception to territories, and provision is made for this in canon law itself. Sometimes (though rarely) parish territories might even overlap a bit.

I’ll quote your original concluding question: “Are we violating canon law by not belonging to the parish where we live?” The proper response is actually that the question itself doesn’t make sense. You already “belong to” the parish where you live, even though you might be attending or even registered at, the parish other-than the one where you are a member. No, attending there doesn’t violate canon law. You do need to be aware that even though the situation might not cause any problems at the present, sometime in the future when it comes to something that requires you to go to (or through) your own proper parish or your own proper pastor you might very well encounter some difficulties.

If you need to see them, I can post the relevant canons. I’ve posted them so many times here on CAF that I’m about ready to just save them as a word processor doc to save some time;)
Fr. David, thank you for the explanation. That really explains a lot. A few things I am still a little fuzzy about, though. First, what sorts of things require me to go through my own proper parish? Like I said, my wife and I were married at the other parish, and she was even confirmed there, and no one ever mentioned anything to us about a proper parish. Was a mistake made when we received those sacraments at a parish other than our proper parish?

Second, how do I find out which terrority I am in? I can assume it would be the parish closest to my home, but is there a way to find out for sure?
 
Fr. David, thank you for the explanation. That really explains a lot. A few things I am still a little fuzzy about, though. First, what sorts of things require me to go through my own proper parish? Like I said, my wife and I were married at the other parish, and she was even confirmed there, and no one ever mentioned anything to us about a proper parish. Was a mistake made when we received those sacraments at a parish other than our proper parish?

Second, how do I find out which terrority I am in? I can assume it would be the parish closest to my home, but is there a way to find out for sure?
I would think the easiest way would be to contact the parish and ask. If that doesn’t help, call the diocesan office and ask.

I know that those things are sometimes ignored by parishes. When I first worked in the parish office, our Pastor also ministered to the native parish down the road. If he administered sacraments to them in our parish they were entered in our registers, if he did it in theirs they were entered in their registers.

A few years later they got their own Pastor, who lived in our rectory. He also administered sacraments to them in either parish (they prefer our church for weddings, it’s bigger) but all were entered in their registers. He seemed to think that the location wasn’t important, only who the celebrant was.

Now they have another pastor who will enter marriages he performs in our church in our register because of the civil documents involved. Baptisms, OTOH, are all entered in their registers, regardless of where he celebrates them.
 
I will have to speak to the priest at the church I’ve been able to go, and he will let me know which is the better option for my situation.
 
Fr. David, thank you for the explanation. That really explains a lot. A few things I am still a little fuzzy about, though. First, what sorts of things require me to go through my own proper parish? Like I said, my wife and I were married at the other parish, and she was even confirmed there, and no one ever mentioned anything to us about a proper parish. Was a mistake made when we received those sacraments at a parish other than our proper parish?

Second, how do I find out which terrority I am in? I can assume it would be the parish closest to my home, but is there a way to find out for sure?
Frist, the simple part: as far as your own parish boundaries are concerned, you’ll need to contact the local parish–start with the one closest to you as it’s the most likely. Sometimes these are listed on diocese websites, or the website of the individual parish.

Marriage is the “big one” because the jurisdiction of the priest can mean the difference between a valid marriage and an invalid attempt at one. Now, before we get a whole slew of posts where people say “I was married in 1946…am I validly married?” Let’s NOT get into all that. The point is that your parish of membership is relevant. When priests don’t have proper jurisdiction, they know what to do (and 99.9999% of the time they do it) and they get delegation. It’s also relevant for baptisms although it’s not a matter of a valid baptism, but a matter of following canon law (again, let’s not get into this any deeper).

Regardless of what we’re discussing here it comes to “one might or might not” be able to celebrate a Sacrament (or similar such as a funeral) at a parish other than ones own. Public liturgies are open to anyone, of course. You can go to Mass anywhere, confession anywhere, rosary anywhere, etc. etc. But when it comes to something more “personal” (and I’ve been searching for a better word but that’s the best I can come up with) the only guarantees that can be made is that Catholics have a right to receive the sacraments and sacramentals from their own proper pastors; anywhere else, it’s a courtesy. And again, let’s not get into things like “danger of death” because that only distracts from the topic.

As for your own experiences, I’ll venture to say that the pastors involved worked-out all the details, and everything was done according to canon law, so don’t worry about the past.

On a practical note, it becomes an issue in many places because people “want” to get married in a certain church building, or they “want” to arrange for their funeral (or that of a loved one) in a place other-than the proper parish. There are plenty of anecdotal examples floating around the threads here where people say “we did it this way, and everything came out OK.” That’s nice, but it doesn’t change what canon law has to say on the matter, and it doesn’t guarantee that anyone else will have similar experiences.

The reality is that in many places in the US, particularly in the “traditional Catholic” areas, many parishes are being closed, consolidated, re-aligned, and whatever else. (Three easy examples that come to mind are Boston, Cleveland and Philadelphia.) These are often places where neighborhoods had several Catholic parishes and were usually defined along ethnic lines (those “personal parishes”). With the current priest shortage, and simple economics, many dioceses are making it a point to enforce parish boundaries. I talk to some of my priest-friends in those areas and they tell me that they have 3 funerals a day and at least 2 weddings on weekends. They simply cannot accomodate all the people who “want” to have these services in a church of their choosing, and they have no choice but to limit availability to actual parishioners. In some cases, it’s because the bishop insists on strict enforcement. In other words, they are abiding by canon law.

You have a right to receive the sacraments in your own parish church. But when you go to a parish other than your own parish, this is done by accommodation and is a courtesy extended by the host pastor. It might or might not happen. It might happen now, but it might not happen when some future pastor is assigned, or some future bishop takes office.

That’s my concern with this issue, and why I keep making such a “big deal” about it. I know a lot of people (personally not just as a priest) who have been hurt by the fact that someone who doesn’t understand these things said “it doesn’t matter, just ignore canon law and do as you please…” They did just that, and then when crunch-time comes, they discover that all the promised made, and all the anecdotal stories told by strangers on the internet come to nothing in the end.

There are many posters here on CAF who will encourage people to ignore canon law about parish boundaries. But where will those people be when it comes time for grandma’s funeral and the priest says “I’m sorry, but we can’t accommodate you, you need to go to her own parish to arrange the funeral”??? The response “but so-and-so on an internet forum told me parish boundaries don’t matter…” won’t get them anywhere. That’s the heart of the matter, and that’s what some people here just refuse to understand…

…When a pastor is enforcing parish boundaries, whether it’s because he just wants to be stubborn, or because he has no other choice, or somewhere in-between, an appeal to an internet forum won’t be worth a rat’s tail, and all those posters who said “it doesn’t matter” wont’ be of any help. That much I can guarantee.
 
I think in the end, you have to decide which church feels like home. If the church next door feels like home, go there, but if it’s located 30 minutes away, then go there. The only problem is that a person’s place of residence will determine whether nor not they can become a warden or more.

Good churches regardless of what denomination, a person attends are difficult to find and in the end it’s important to enjoy the honour of having a good church. If you love your church, advertise it, talk about it, let your friends know why it is a great church. Word of mouth can either help or ruin a church. One of the reasons why I started to attend my parish was because I knew the pastor and he had a good reputation, this positive reputation came from positive talk. When I hear of people looking for a church, I recommend mine.
 
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