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Have we as a society gone toooo far to be socially correct in our schools?

Teachers have little say over the actual subjects and how their unions regulate social and educational content in the system. So how do we correct this situation?
 
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In its fiscal year 2007, the NEA spent $80.5 million — more than 20 percent of its entire budget — on “contributions, gifts and grants” that largely funded left-wing and non-education-related causes, including drives to raise the minimum wage and organizations promoting radical social issues. As a Wall Street Journal editorial noted, the union’s financial disclosure forms “expose the union as a honey pot for left-wing political causes that have nothing to do with teachers, much less students.”
Left-leaning recipients of teachers’ forced NEA dues:
Organizations supported by teachers unions:
  • ACORN
  • American Rights at Work
  • Americans United for Separation of Church and State
  • Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund
  • Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance
  • Ballot Initiative Strategy Center
  • Business and Professional Women/USA
  • Campaign for America’s Future
  • Center for Community Change
  • Center for Policy Alternatives
  • Children’s Defense Fund
  • Communities for Quality Education
  • Communities United to Strengthen America
  • Congressional Black Caucus Foundation
  • Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute
  • Democratic GAIN
  • Democratic Leadership Council
  • Early Vote Denver
  • Economic Policy Institute
  • Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network
  • GLAAD
  • Human Rights Campaign
  • Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies
  • Labor Council for Latin American Advancement
  • Latina Initiative
  • Leadership Conference on Civil Rights
  • League of Rural Voters
  • Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund
  • NAACP
  • National Association for Bilingual Education
  • National Council of La Raza
  • National Partnership for Women & Families
  • National Women’s Law Center
  • People for the American Way
  • RainbowPUSH Coalition
  • Sierra Club
  • Southern Christian Leadership Conference
  • The Citizenship Project
  • The National Coalition on Black Civic Participation
  • The Task Force Foundation
  • USAction
  • Women’s Campaign Forum
  • Women’s Voices, Women Vote
  • Working America
    teachersunionexposed.com/politicalpower_money.cfm
 
I’m ashamed that I actually paid dues to them at one point.

They really try to indoctrinate the teachers as well. I remember a year where we had an election for governor. They actually had mandatory “election information sessions” that all teachers had to attend…during school time. :eek:

We were then given all the reasons why the secular-progressive cantidate was the best choice and that as a teacher we had to vote for them. :bigyikes:

The Catholic Church takes heat for the bishop’s document on voting but it doesn’t even touch the propaganda that I was exposed to. 🤷
 
I used to be for testing school kids, that was until I put my youngest son into the school system in the fifth grade. They spent so much time doing estimation instead of regular math that I finally asked the teacher about it. She told me that estimation was a big part of the tests that were given in her school system so she was forced to spend a lot of time on this subject. She wasn’t happy either.😦

Now I homeschool, but I still have sympathy for teachers.
 
I am a teacher and I’d like to comment on the union issue. First, as a worker bee I like to have some sort of collective bargaining ability. I teach history and life before unions was pretty terrible for us workers. Having said that, unions seem to have turned out, in many cases, to be their own worst enemy. I put this down to plain old human greed and love of power - the same sins that made unions necessary in the first place. Nor do I find the union serving me very well. I went to school and earned my credential - which meets NCLB standards. Yet I cannot find a job. Why? Because bad teachers and teachers with emergency credentials (who lack the training I do) already have the jobs. I am going to have to relocate.

Unfortunately, there are far more special interests at work that teacher’s unions. Those with the money make the policy. We call it lobbying but to me it seems more like bribery. The entire system is pretty corrupt, if you ask me. 😦
 
I am a teacher and I’d like to comment on the union issue. First, as a worker bee I like to have some sort of collective bargaining ability. I teach history and life before unions was pretty terrible for us workers. Having said that, unions seem to have turned out, in many cases, to be their own worst enemy. I put this down to plain old human greed and love of power - the same sins that made unions necessary in the first place. Nor do I find the union serving me very well. I went to school and earned my credential - which meets NCLB standards. Yet I cannot find a job. Why? Because bad teachers and teachers with emergency credentials (who lack the training I do) already have the jobs. I am going to have to relocate.

Unfortunately, there are far more special interests at work that teacher’s unions. Those with the money make the policy. We call it lobbying but to me it seems more like bribery. The entire system is pretty corrupt, if you ask me. 😦
My brother and sister-in-law had to relocate to find teaching jobs. They moved from PA to MD so they could work. They will never get rich but someday should have a nice pension to retire on. PA is really unionized and MD is more a right to work state.
 
I am a teacher and I’d like to comment on the union issue. First, as a worker bee I like to have some sort of collective bargaining ability. I teach history and life before unions was pretty terrible for us workers.
However, federal and state laws now addresses all of the abuses experienced in the days before unions. The Fair Labor Standards Act, Family Medical Leave Act, OSHA regulations, EEOC requirements, and Title IX of the Civil Rights Act as amended all render the argument that unions are needed to protect worker’s rights and working conditions null. The free market economics of labor-- and the need for skilled workers all over this country-- also blows the “union” argument away.
Having said that, unions seem to have turned out, in many cases, to be their own worst enemy. I put this down to plain old human greed and love of power - the same sins that made unions necessary in the first place. Nor do I find the union serving me very well. I went to school and earned my credential - which meets NCLB standards. Yet I cannot find a job. Why? Because bad teachers and teachers with emergency credentials (who lack the training I do) already have the jobs. I am going to have to relocate.

Unfortunately, there are far more special interests at work that teacher’s unions. Those with the money make the policy. We call it lobbying but to me it seems more like bribery. The entire system is pretty corrupt, if you ask me. 😦
Yep!

Relocate to Texas, a state without unions and with great wages for teachers. I moved from TX to WI, and I cannot believe how teachers up here cling to their unions and yet they make half what teachers make in TX where there are no unions.
 
My brother and sister-in-law had to relocate to find teaching jobs. They moved from PA to MD so they could work. They will never get rich but someday should have a nice pension to retire on. PA is really unionized and MD is more a right to work state.
Well, knowing I’m not alone actually helps. I made this mid-life career move to do something in service to others. Quit a good job, went into student loan debt. And now I have to leave the state (still working on where I’ll go, TX is an idea though, as is MD. TX would probably be either the Rio Grande valley or Houston area, MD would be Baltimore area. Also looking at placed in the South near where I grew up (Memphis, Atlanta, MS, etc.).

As to what we can teach, textbook publishers have a lot of power in this area. I wish I knew more about how texts are put together.
 
Well, knowing I’m not alone actually helps. I made this mid-life career move to do something in service to others. Quit a good job, went into student loan debt. And now I have to leave the state (still working on where I’ll go, TX is an idea though, as is MD. TX would probably be either the Rio Grande valley or Houston area, MD would be Baltimore area. Also looking at placed in the South near where I grew up (Memphis, Atlanta, MS, etc.).
Cost of living in TX is great, especially compared to CA. I lived in Houston for 15 years, and grew up in a small town an hour away. I, of course, think it’s a great place to live. The suburban schools there-- Katy, Cy-Fair, etc-- are great.
As to what we can teach, textbook publishers have a lot of power in this area. I wish I knew more about how texts are put together.
It depends upon the state. In TX, the Texas Education Agency and the State School Board (elected positions) have state requirements for textbooks-- standards, objectives, etc-- and they cannot present their books for adoption unless they meet the standards. In TX, the State Board approves a number of books and then the individual districts can choose any on the list that they like.

Also, in TX there is a mandatory textbook adoption cycle. I was shocked when I moved here to WI and they are still using the same math textbooks my husband used over 25 years ago (literally, as in the same books). That can’t happen in TX b/c books go out of adoption after X years (I think it’s either 5 or 10) and new books are adopted.
 
Also, since California purchases more new text books then any other state on a revolving basis the books tend to be written to California standards. So it is always a good idea to keep track of California education regs.
 
**School Choice! **

If the average cost to educate a child in the state is $X, then let their parents direct $X dollars to an approved school of their choice: public, private, charter, home, tutor, etc. . .

Make Schools compete for students. The current system allows for little or no competition. Good School = Big Budget/Full Enrollment. Mediocre School = Meager Budget/Meager Enrollment.

The Mediocre Schools will improve within days if they want the budget to pay their employees and keep the lights on. Better yet they will all cut back on administrative staff and get more teachers. . .

Imagine the variety of excellent schools that would quickly spring up after starting something like this.

The other helpful measure would be to abolish 4 Year Teaching Degrees. Anyone with any college degree should be able to spend a single summer in classes learning how to teach, and then get to work.

-Jason Worden
RCIA is ten days away!
 
**School Choice! **

If the average cost to educate a child in the state is $X, then let their parents direct $X dollars to an approved school of their choice: public, private, charter, home, tutor, etc. . .

Make Schools compete for students. The current system allows for little or no competition. Good School = Big Budget/Full Enrollment. Mediocre School = Meager Budget/Meager Enrollment.

The Mediocre Schools will improve within days if they want the budget to pay their employees and keep the lights on. Better yet they will all cut back on administrative staff and get more teachers. . .

Imagine the variety of excellent schools that would quickly spring up after starting something like this.

The other helpful measure would be to abolish 4 Year Teaching Degrees. Anyone with any college degree should be able to spend a single summer in classes learning how to teach, and then get to work.

-Jason Worden
RCIA is ten days away!
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Organizations supported by teachers unions:
  • ACORN
  • American Rights at Work
  • Americans United for Separation of Church and State
  • Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund
  • Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance
  • Ballot Initiative Strategy Center
  • Business and Professional Women/USA
  • Campaign for America’s Future
  • Center for Community Change
  • Center for Policy Alternatives
  • Children’s Defense Fund
  • Communities for Quality Education
  • Communities United to Strengthen America
  • Congressional Black Caucus Foundation
  • Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute
  • Democratic GAIN
  • Democratic Leadership Council
  • Early Vote Denver
  • Economic Policy Institute
  • Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network
  • GLAAD
  • Human Rights Campaign
  • Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies
  • Labor Council for Latin American Advancement
  • Latina Initiative
  • Leadership Conference on Civil Rights
  • League of Rural Voters
  • Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund
  • NAACP
  • National Association for Bilingual Education
  • National Council of La Raza
  • National Partnership for Women & Families
  • National Women’s Law Center
  • People for the American Way
  • RainbowPUSH Coalition
  • Sierra Club
  • Southern Christian Leadership Conference
  • The Citizenship Project
  • The National Coalition on Black Civic Participation
  • The Task Force Foundation
  • USAction
  • Women’s Campaign Forum
  • Women’s Voices, Women Vote
  • Working America
    teachersunionexposed.com/politicalpower_money.cfm
Any other to add to this old list?

How many of these orginizations do you know about? The names might sound good. But, what do they stand for? Look them up and then deside if you want to support them.
 
Teachers have little say over the actual subjects and how their unions regulate social and educational content in the system. So how do we correct this situation?
Decisions are made in your government and through your local school board. Get involved in your local school board, be vocal about life and morality, and influence the schools in your town.
Pray that schools would hire moral teachers. That means pray for the school administrators who do the hiring. Some schools have a much larger than average percentage of gays working there. Why? That is the focus of the principal. A whole lot goes on right next to you, and you can make a difference with very little time and energy.
 

Organizations supported by teachers unions:
  • ACORN
  • American Rights at Work
  • Americans United for Separation of Church and State
  • Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund
  • Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance
  • Ballot Initiative Strategy Center
  • Business and Professional Women/USA
  • Campaign for America’s Future
  • Center for Community Change
  • Center for Policy Alternatives
  • Children’s Defense Fund
  • Communities for Quality Education
  • Communities United to Strengthen America
  • Congressional Black Caucus Foundation
  • Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute
  • Democratic GAIN
  • Democratic Leadership Council
  • Early Vote Denver
  • Economic Policy Institute
  • Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network
  • GLAAD
  • Human Rights Campaign
  • Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies
  • Labor Council for Latin American Advancement
  • Latina Initiative
  • Leadership Conference on Civil Rights
  • League of Rural Voters
  • Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund
  • NAACP
  • National Association for Bilingual Education
  • National Council of La Raza
  • National Partnership for Women & Families
  • National Women’s Law Center
  • People for the American Way
  • RainbowPUSH Coalition
  • Sierra Club
  • Southern Christian Leadership Conference
  • The Citizenship Project
  • The National Coalition on Black Civic Participation
  • The Task Force Foundation
  • USAction
  • Women’s Campaign Forum
  • Women’s Voices, Women Vote
  • Working America
    teachersunionexposed.com/politicalpower_money.cfm
I have actually “marched on” my state Capital over this very issue, when my kids were little and we were being supported by their Dad’s tiny teacher’s salary. The idea of supporting the Democratic Presidential Campaign with those dues, when we couldn’t even afford to support our own candidate was totally inappropriate. Our state attorney general sued the Washington Education Assn for their illegal use of the teacher’s dues, and won! Stealing teacher’s money to pay for liberal politics isn’t American. Let the teachers decide who gets their money.

Why are the teacher’s dues going into politics in the first place?
There is something really broken in the whole Unions system anyway. I think they are dead and useless. They had their day, they are no longer needed. It’s a fallacy to say that they really are needed still.
 
The Three-Paper Solution

This paper addresses the issue of education in America. It is based on four principles:

 We, the public, should pay for the education of each child in the nation.

 If we pay for a child’s education, the child should get an education – one commensurate with the amount we pay (which is to say, a world-class education).

 There should be no disparity among children, either in what we pay, or the quality education they receive.

 America works best when we have free and open competition among suppliers – and that applies to suppliers of education as much as to any other thing.

The Three-Paper Solution is a framework for applying these four principles. In practice, it is quite simple – first of all, get three sheets of blank paper:

On the first sheet: write the standards which you feel every school should meet. If you want a school to serve a hot lunch, write it down, and set standards so we can determine if the school is meeting the requirement. Similarly, if you want integrated schools, write standards for integration. Continue until you feel you have described all the standards a publicly-funded school should meet.

When writing, remember – all schools which receive public funds will have to meet your requirements, not just “public schools” and not just “private schools receiving public funds.” Schools which cannot meet your standards – whether public or private – will not be eligible to receive public funding. Also remember – these will be the only public funds the school receives.

On the second sheet: write the standards which you feel every student should meet. Specify how well children should read at the end of each grade. Set standards for electives as well as mandatory subjects – for example, if a school has a course in carpentry or automotive repair, set standards for courses in those subjects.

Write your standards as objective, measurable standards. Tell what the students must do to prove the standards have been met.

On the third sheet: list those things for which you are willing to pay extra and set a price tag beside them.
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How it works**: any agency or business can open a school and receive ninety percent of the per-pupil share of the state’s educational expenditures for each pupil the school attracts. This is the only source of public funding any school will receive; public, private non-profit, or private for-profit.

But won’t that drive the public schools out of business?

Only if you assume the public schools cannot compete in an open market – a market in which the same standards are applied to all schools. Schools which cannot attract enough children will go out of business – and they should go out of business. Any school – public, private non-profit, or private for-profit, which can attract enough children will have enough funding to continue operations.

Won’t poor children suffer?

No. Poor children will be better off under this plan than under the present “public school” system, because they will be able to attend any school they wish,. just as the children of more affluent parents can.

What about children trapped in a declining school as other children leave?

No one will be “trapped” in a declining school. All children will have the same opportunity to move. Children whose parents do not move them at first can be moved later, at any time – because their parents will have the same funding the other children’s parents had.

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The Three-Paper Solution
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Would parents be allowed to supplement the public funds?

Of course! Look at it this way – I open a school that gets $5,000 of public funds per child (the national average is closer to twice that, but we’ll use $5,000 in this example), and the parents kick in an extra $10,000 per child. I successfully recruit nine affluent children. But in your First Sheet of paper, you said that to receive public funds I have to have at least 10% poor minority enrollment. So now I have to recruit a poor minority child, or lose $45,000 in public funding.

How do I do that if the poor parents can’t afford to pay the extra $10,000?

I give the child a $10,000 scholarship, of course – and the public funds kick in another $5,000 for that child. So for a $10,000 scholarship, I get $50,000 in public funds.

Who loses?

Not me – I qualify for $50,000 in public funds in return for a $10,000 scholarship.

Not the public – they’re paying $5,000 per child, just as they would at any other school.

Not the students – they’re attending a first-class school (and if it weren’t first class, their parents wouldn’t be willing to kick in an extra $10,000 per pupil).

Not the poor minority students – they’re getting the same first-class education and making all the connections the children of the affluent are making, and it isn’t costing them a cent.

Nobody loses, everybody wins.

But wouldn’t the private schools “cherry pick” – take the best students and leave the problem students for the public schools?

Of course not! After all, you’re the one writing the rules. If you’re smart enough to figure they might do this, you’re also smart enough to write a standard to prevent them from doing it.

But wouldn’t the private schools avoid ghetto areas?

That’s what your Third Sheet of paper is for – if private industry or non-profit organizations aren’t willing to open a school in a particular area for $5,000 per child, bid $5,100 – and keep bidding until you get a good school there. You have the money because you held back 10% of the funds, remember?

What about rural areas, or parents in areas where there are no alternative schools? How will these children get to school?

When the money accompanies the child, schools will be where they are needed – aren’t there gas stations and fast food joints wherever they are needed? In addition, there are many alternatives to the traditional method of schooling. A good example is the Arkansas Virtual School. This is now linked to the public school system, and currently offers a complete curriculum up thorough the eighth grade via the Internet. This technology – already available throughout the state – will allow any child to attend a quality school.

But can it be done at the figures you use?

Absolutely! I have worked for a for-profit company as a training analyst, developer and program manager. I have costed out, bid on, and won contracts. In the commercial training industry, the “burden rate” – the cost of overhead, administration, benefits, profit, and so on – is about 100%. That means that for each dollar the company pays a professional (like myself) it must charge the customer two dollars to cover rent, salaries for administrative personnel, social security, benefits and the like, and still make a profit.

If we maintain one teacher for each 25-student classroom and assume $5,000 for each child (Arkansas currently spends over $9,000 per child), that teacher is generating $125,000 per year, and we can afford to pay the teacher about $62,500 a year in salary.

But in a competitive market, we can do innovative things. For example, instead of starting school once a year, we could start school every quarter. This would generate a one-third increase in efficiency, so now the teacher is generating a little over $165,000 a year.

We can do other things – for example, I mentioned the Arkansas Virtual School earlier. I have extensive experience with this type of technology. My company developed Computer-Based Instruction (CBI) programs in basic educational subjects for the Department of Defense. These programs were designed for military personnel who had graduated from the Public School System without the necessary reading, writing and math skills they needed.

We can use such programs combined with live classroom instruction to further increase the efficiency of the professional teacher, and raise the income generated to well over $200,000 per year – which means we could afford to pay teachers an average annual salary of about $100,000. Of course, starting teachers would receive less, while experienced, star-quality teachers would receive much more.

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The Three Paper Solution
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But what would happen to the public schools?

They would become part of the Public Education System – a system in which every child receives the same funding, and can attend any school the parents choose.

Bad public schools – and bad private schools – would fail. Good schools – public and private – would prosper.

What about rapidly-growing areas? How would they get schools?

Very easily. It typically takes the current bureaucracy-ridden system about five years to establish a new school.

But it doesn’t take private industry five years to put a shopping mall near a new subdivision, complete with fast food outlets, grocery and drug stores, video stores and gas stations. Private industry has shown that it can meet all the needs of the public, no matter how fast they change, if the profit is there.

Open up the Public Education System to private industry, and stand back and watch our schools improve.
 
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