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paperwight
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Are you perhaps confusing the Communion fast with that of Ash Wednesday and Good Friday?HomeschoolDad:
I know all fasting laws end at 60 in my Diocese. That might not be universal, but I thought it was.
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Phemie
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That’s the law for fasting on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, it’s not for the Communion fast which lets us have a 6 course meal just before leaving for church as long as 60 minutes went by between the last bite and reception of Communion.HomeschoolDad:
I know all fasting laws end at 60 in my Diocese. That might not be universal, but I thought it was.
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PatK63
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Are you sure about that? I have never heard caffeine broke the fast. It is not solid food! He could be considered medicine!
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1ke
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Yes.
Can. 919: §1. A person who is to receive the Most Holy Eucharist is to abstain for at least one hour before holy communion from any food and drink, except for only water and medicine.
One doesn’t drink “caffeine”. One drinks coffee or tea or soda, etc. those are not water.
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PatK63
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Thanks. Learn something new every day!
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TheMortenBay
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If you take caffeine medically, it’s fine. Even if you have to drink coffee to get it. The same way you’re allowed to eat with your pills if it’s “to be taken in connection with a meal”. That meal doesn’t break the eucharistic fast either.
Possibly, but if so, it’s a common mistake. This was the first link I happened upon. They don’t provide any evidence here either, though:
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How Long Must Catholics Fast Before Receiving Communion?
To receive Communion, you must fast for one hour from food and drink, except for water and medicine. Learn more about fasting before Communion.
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twf
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This is not a criticism per se, more an observation… traditionalists are very wary of novelties introduced after Vatican II, but they seem to have no issue with novelties introduced during the first half of the 20th century. You even see the word “traditionally” used for such novelties. Celebrating Mass after noon? That was forbidden not so long ago. 3 hour fast? That’s a Pius XII novelty. The so called “traditional breviary”? That was heavily reformed by St Pius X. I actually find it a bit surpassing that traditionalists are ok with evening Masses when it really was such a major departure from tradition…and a very recent development.
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TheMortenBay
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Usually “traditionalists” like myself try to see the difference between “change for the sake of change” and “change for the sake of common good.”
The two changes in communion fast are a good example. On the one hand you have the change from 12am to 3 hours to suit a new situation (shift work) after the war. On the other hand you have the change from 3 hours to 1… I believe that change was made to “make it easier to receive communion”, though I can’t find the exact quote now.
I’ll give you the Pius X breviary, though. I like it, but it’s not necessarily “traditional” outside using Latin and keeping more of the traditional breviary structure (so basically only if you compare it to the 1970 breviary).
The two changes in communion fast are a good example. On the one hand you have the change from 12am to 3 hours to suit a new situation (shift work) after the war. On the other hand you have the change from 3 hours to 1… I believe that change was made to “make it easier to receive communion”, though I can’t find the exact quote now.
I’ll give you the Pius X breviary, though. I like it, but it’s not necessarily “traditional” outside using Latin and keeping more of the traditional breviary structure (so basically only if you compare it to the 1970 breviary).
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MiserereMeiDei
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Yes. It’s not caffeine, it’s liquids other than water.
But it’s not water, which is the only liquid allowed within the hour.
If he suffers migraines, perhaps.
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1ke
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CAF Used to have a sticky note this specifically said not to call people that. I don’t see the sticky note anymore, since the conversion to the new platform
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acanonlawyer
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“Elderly” = 59 years old. Dear me.
Excuse me, I have a bottle of Ensure waiting for me in the refrigerator, and I think I hear my Jitterbug ringing…… telemarketer wanting to sell me a walk-in tub…
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twf
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Yeah, I think that canon should eventually be revised as people are living longer and longer. Of course some developing countries less so…
In the secular sphere, “senior discounts” for 55+ also strike me as absurd. I have a great-uncle and aunt who retired around 55. He, at least, is now mid-80s… they’ve been collecting pensions and travelling for pretty much my entire (30+ year) life. Allegedly they’ve been “seniors” that entire time. My aunt was hitting the gym, running, and rowing well into her late 70s.
In the secular sphere, “senior discounts” for 55+ also strike me as absurd. I have a great-uncle and aunt who retired around 55. He, at least, is now mid-80s… they’ve been collecting pensions and travelling for pretty much my entire (30+ year) life. Allegedly they’ve been “seniors” that entire time. My aunt was hitting the gym, running, and rowing well into her late 70s.
I take them if I can get them. It’s a free enterprise business decision, and no one has to offer those discounts. In the case of hotels, it seems to be because “seniors” have more discretionary time, and possibly income, to travel more, and they tend to be clean, orderly, well-behaved guests who don’t cause problems for the hoteliers. My income is limited and I’ll take all the goodies I can get.
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Phemie
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halogirl
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How come no priest has ever told me to fast for an hour before, during my RCIA ? Or instructed young people during their confirmation course ? I’ve been helping on that course for two years now. don’t get me wrong, I don’t exactly wolf down breakfast on the way, but I have a sip of soda as I walk to mass, usually caffeinated to wake me up. I try to stop about an hour before the time I know distribution occurs but I only learned that because of this forum. Would anyone like me to ask my priest these questions , and let you know what they say, just out of interest ?
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1ke
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I think that’s a question for the priest that instructed your RCIA class.
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halogirl
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He’s moved out of the area so I can’t
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