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jp54321
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What are the differences between the OF and the EF Easter Vigil Liturgy?
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ProVobis
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Start time?
In the EF the Vigil is technically not a Mass is my understanding.
I know we’ve debated this before and I’ll try to find the specifics unless someone else beats me to it.
In the EF the Vigil is technically not a Mass is my understanding.
I know we’ve debated this before and I’ll try to find the specifics unless someone else beats me to it.
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Usige
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No vestments changes in the OF?
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powerofk
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If this were the case, it would mean that the EF Easter Vigil would not satisfy the requirements for an Easter Mass, while an OF Vigil definitely does satisfy such requirements.Start time?
In the EF the Vigil is technically not a Mass is my understanding.
I know we’ve debated this before and I’ll try to find the specifics unless someone else beats me to it.
Regardless, apparently, in the early Church, the Easter Vigil went from sunset to sunrise. Makes the approx. 2-3 hour Vigil Mass seem short by comparison.
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ProVobis
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Right.
In the 1962 handmissal I have it says “The hour for beginning this [Holy Saturday] solemn service should be selected so that the Mass of Resurrection may begin about midnight; but the Bishop of the Diocese may judge it better for special reasons to begin earlier; nevertheless this earlier start should preferably be later than twilight, and on no account before sunset.”
Then it has the Blessing the New Fire, Blessing of the Paschal Candle, Procession and Exultet, Lessons from the Prophecies, First Part of the Litanies, Blessing of Baptismal Water, Renewal of Baptismal Promises, Second Part of the Litanies, then the Mass.
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corsair
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Our FSSP parish times the Vigil Mass so that at the stroke of midnight the organ bursts forth with the Gloria. It is a powerful experience.
It sure looks like a Mass to me.
It sure looks like a Mass to me.
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GoGoDiego
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- Lucenarium
-OF: Greeting, introduction (Dear brethren, on this most sacred night…), blessing of the fire and paschal candle, lighting of paschal candle, Lumen Christi (thrice), Exsultet.
- Liturgy of the Word and Baptismal Rite
-OF: OT Readings (1-7, may be shortened to 5 or 3), Responsorial Psalms after each OT Readings, Prayer after OT Readings, Gloria In Excelsis after last OT Reading, Collect, Epistle, Alleluia and Confitemini Domino (Ps. 118), Gospel, Homily, (Litany of the Saints, if the font is to be blessed and/or there are to be baptized), Blessing of Water, (Baptism and Confirmation, if Bishop is present or a priest delegated for this purpose), Renewal of Baptismal Promises, Sprinkling of Water
- Continuation of the Mass
-OF; Starts with the Universal Prayer, Liturgy of the Eucharist until the Dismissal with two Alleluias
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Brandon_Cal
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How does any of this prove your earlier point that the (edit: EF) Easter Vigil is not a proper “Mass”?
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ProVobis
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Because as I remember back in 1962, the Vigil, designed to be said on Holy Saturday, did not fulfill the Sunday obligation per se? I’m not sure there was always a Mass afterwards but I could be wrong. Of course now the same Mass could be said after vespere and it counts for Sunday. I have yet to find one though.
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ProVobis
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Nomenclature basically. GoGoSanDiego shows where the EF Mass starts and where the OF starts. And if I remember right, in 1962 the Mass didn’t always start right after the VIgil but I could be wrong. We had no vespere Masses which fulfilled the Sunday obligation then.
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Brandon_Cal
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Yet today, in the 21st century, when the EF is celebrated on the Easter Vigil, Mass immediately follows the lighting of the fire, the greater (and lesser) litanies, etc. Anyone who attends “Easter Vigil” in the EF will necessarily experience all of that plus Mass.
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ProVobis
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I’ve never been to either so I’ll take your word for it.
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