Ember and Rogation Days

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Does anybody out there (I guess this would probably limit itself to the Traditionalists) still observe these parts of the old liturgical calendar? Since I was born well after Vatican II I don’t even have a very good idea of what they are, but since I know old practices die hard, I figure there’s gotta be some folks out there who still observe the fasts, etc. For everyone with past or present experience with them, did you find the disciplines edifying, or did they wind up being a set of overlooked practices?
 
I’ve heard the US bishops had various proposals for what they should be… I don’t know much about the whole topic, but the idea was that there would be certain days set nationwide - like the anniversary of Roe v Wade or something like that. But anyway, I don’t think it was ever agreed upon.
 
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Does anybody out there (I guess this would probably limit itself to the Traditionalists) still observe these parts of the old liturgical calendar? Since I was born well after Vatican II I don’t even have a very good idea of what they are, but since I know old practices die hard, I figure there’s gotta be some folks out there who still observe the fasts, etc. For everyone with past or present experience with them, did you find the disciplines edifying, or did they wind up being a set of overlooked practices?
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Their meaning has been lost since we are not an agricultural society, however I believe that they are still on the liturgical calendar.
 
Br.Rich

Ember days have nothing to do with agriculture. They are like half week lents spread out threw the year.
Rogation days also ask God to protect us from earthquakes[remember the tsunamis>?],tidal waves, tornados, natural disasters, and chastisements. THINGS WE ALL NEED NOW!
 
The Ember Days and Rogation Days are still commonly observed among those Catholics associated with the Catholic Worker communities. Some of the best current writing on Ember Day and Rogation Day observance can be found on the “Access to Catholic Social Justice Teaching” website at justpeace.org/

It’s good to pray and remind ourselves that our food does not come from the supermarket or from General Foods or from Archer Daniels Midland. Our food comes from God who sends the rain and sunshine and snow cover at the proper times and alone can control the often-chaotic weather and geology and insect-life …

karen marie
 
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Br.Rich

Ember days have nothing to do with agriculture. They are like half week lents spread out threw the year.
Rogation days also ask God to protect us from earthquakes[remember the tsunamis>?],tidal waves, tornados, natural disasters, and chastisements. THINGS WE ALL NEED NOW!
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You may be correct I seem to remember that Rogation days marked the planting of the crops and a prayer for a good crop. I thought Ember days however had something to do with each of the seasons?
 
I loved Rogation Days as a child! The whole school would stand in formation on the school playground and sing the responses while Monsignor led the Litany and processed up and down through the rows of kids. What a witness to the passing traffic on the street! It was the closest thing we had to the Lourdes Rosary procession.
 
Here’s what I found on Ember Days from “The Old Farmer’s Almanac 2005”:

“The Almanac traditionally marks the four periods formerly observed by the Roman Catholic and Anglican churches for prayer, fasting, and the ordination of clergy. These Ember Days are the Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays that follow in succession after: 1. the First Sunday in Lent; 2. Whitsunday-Pentecost; 3. The feast of the Holy Cross, September 14; and the feast of St.Lucia, December 13. The word ember is perhaps a corruption of the Latin quatuor tempora, “four times.””
 
There was an agricultural thread to them but if I remember correctly, the fall ember days were, particularly Sturday was for newly ordained priests. bUt bringing them back for the purpose to promote life in this culture of death would not be a bad idea.
 
Archbishop Vlazny of Portland, oregon has started the archdiocese celebrating ember Days again.
 
Did Ember Days simply go away with the reform of the liturgical calendar? Or were there other reasons? Were they observed universally in the Church prior to Vatican II? They seem to be very cool and should be brought back. I would like some more information on them because I’m considering using them as a private devotion.
 
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Did Ember Days simply go away with the reform of the liturgical calendar? Or were there other reasons? Were they observed universally in the Church prior to Vatican II? They seem to be very cool and should be brought back. I would like some more information on them because I’m considering using them as a private devotion.
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Here is more information on them:
Ember days:
newadvent.org/cathen/05399b.htm

Rogation days:
newadvent.org/cathen/13110b.htm
 
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