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Of course you must do as instructed by your Priests and Bishops. I can only speak for what we do here. At pretty much every Saturday night and Sunday Mass in all our churches here extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers are used for both the Cup/Chalice and the Body. In our whole Archdioceese we have only one Deacon. My priest is taking care of 3 parishes so Mass on Sunday do not last longer than one hour. Until last year several Priests that should have retired were saying Mass every Sunday because of the shortage of Priests. So we use a lot of Extra Ordinary Ministers. Now whether our Bishops got permission from Rome or not for us to do a blessing or not I do not know. It is not an anointing but asking God to bless someone. We have training once a year by our Bishops the Liturgy Commission and by our Parish Priest. Extraordinary Ministers are very common in all parts of Canada.
 
Of course you must do as instructed by your Priests and Bishops. I can only speak for what we do here. At pretty much every Saturday night and Sunday Mass in all our churches here extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers are used for both the Cup/Chalice and the Body. In our whole Archdioceese we have only one Deacon. My priest is taking care of 3 parishes so Mass on Sunday do not last longer than one hour. Until last year several Priests that should have retired were saying Mass every Sunday because of the shortage of Priests. So we use a lot of Extra Ordinary Ministers. Now whether our Bishops got permission from Rome or not for us to do a blessing or not I do not know. It is not an anointing but asking God to bless someone. We have training once a year by our Bishops the Liturgy Commission and by our Parish Priest. Extraordinary Ministers are very common in all parts of Canada.
However, the documents clearly spell out that the EMHCs are only to distribute Holy Communion and nothing else. During the Mass, the only one who can impart the “blessing” is the priest/bishop. It does not pertain to anyone, not even the deacon, to do that.
 
Thank you all for your responses. I appreciate the (name removed by moderator)ut and I think I actually understand now just how much confusion about the role of the EMHC exists. I believe I will refer this matter to the Congregation of Divine Worship and see what they think about the practice of lay people imparting blessings during communion.

I still just have a feeling that there is something not quite right about it and that maybe our parish has crossed yet another line for the sake of not offending someone. Unfortunately, maybe we have also lost yet another ‘teaching opportunity’. I thought we were suppose to be moving away from experimentation and accommodation.

Please pray for us as we continue along the path of least resistance and that our pastors and bishops become brave and uphold what they know is right and holy.

God help us all and especially pray now for our Catholic brothers and sisters in the sovereign democratic nation of Georgia.

Cor Iesu sacratissimum, dona nobis pacem.
 
Thank you all for your responses. I appreciate the (name removed by moderator)ut and I think I actually understand now just how much confusion about the role of the EMHC exists. I believe I will refer this matter to the Congregation of Divine Worship and see what they think about the practice of lay people imparting blessings during communion.

I still just have a feeling that there is something not quite right about it and that maybe our parish has crossed yet another line for the sake of not offending someone. Unfortunately, maybe we have also lost yet another ‘teaching opportunity’. I thought we were suppose to be moving away from experimentation and accommodation.

Please pray for us as we continue along the path of least resistance and that our pastors and bishops become brave and uphold what they know is right and holy.

God help us all and especially pray now for our Catholic brothers and sisters in the sovereign democratic nation of Georgia.

Cor Iesu sacratissimum, dona nobis pacem.
This thought just occurred to me as well, but a larger question might be whether or not it is appropriate for anyone to give a blessing during Communion. It seems like the time for the distribution of Communion is for the distribution of Communion, not the imparting of blessings. I know the practice probably sprung up as a way for everyone to be included, and yet not feel obligated to inappropriately receive Communion (which I think is a noble goal, even if not gone about in the right way). To my knowledge, the CDWDS has not really spoken on this one way or the other at this point.
 
This thought just occurred to me as well, but a larger question might be whether or not it is appropriate for anyone to give a blessing during Communion. ** It seems like the time for the distribution of Communion is for the distribution of Communion, not the imparting of blessings. I know the practice probably sprung up as a way for everyone to be included**, and yet not feel obligated to inappropriately receive Communion (which I think is a noble goal, even if not gone about in the right way). To my knowledge, the CDWDS has not really spoken on this one way or the other at this point.
That might well be the case, but it’s up to the Church and not us. The Church has not prohibited the widespread practice and that speaks volumes.

When I was an infant, beginning perhaps when I was 3 years old, I remember going to the altar rail with my dad. I did that because my parents didn’t want me wandering away while they were at communion. I distinctly remember the priest blessing me in the name of the Holy Trinity while tracing a cross on my forehead. This would have been 1968-69 and I’m sure the practice did not begin that year.
 
That might well be the case, but it’s up to the Church and not us. **The Church has not prohibited the widespread practice and that speaks volumes.
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When I was an infant, beginning perhaps when I was 3 years old, I remember going to the altar rail with my dad. I did that because my parents didn’t want me wandering away while they were at communion. I distinctly remember the priest blessing me in the name of the Holy Trinity while tracing a cross on my forehead. This would have been 1968-69 ****and I’m sure the practice did not begin that year.

It seems the “widespread practice” would fall under this: So basicly an illicit practice.

RS–2004
[27.] As early as the year 1970, the Apostolic See announced the cessation of all experimentation as regards the celebration of Holy Mass[62] and reiterated the same in 1988.[63] Accordingly, **individual Bishops and their Conferences do not have the faculty to permit experimentation with liturgical texts or the other matters that are prescribed in the liturgical books. **In order to carry out experimentation of this kind in the future, the permission of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments is required. It must be in writing, and it is to be requested by the Conference of Bishops. In fact, it will not be granted without serious reason. As regards projects of inculturation in liturgical matters, the particular norms that have been established are strictly and comprehensively to be observed.[64]
 
Of course you must do as instructed by your Priests and Bishops. I can only speak for what we do here. At pretty much every Saturday night and Sunday Mass in all our churches here extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers are used for both the Cup/Chalice and the Body. In our whole Archdioceese we have only one Deacon. My priest is taking care of 3 parishes so Mass on Sunday do not last longer than one hour. Until last year several Priests that should have retired were saying Mass every Sunday because of the shortage of Priests. So we use a lot of Extra Ordinary Ministers. Now whether our Bishops got permission from Rome or not for us to do a blessing or not I do not know. It is not an anointing but asking God to bless someone. We have training once a year by our Bishops the Liturgy Commission and by our Parish Priest. Extraordinary Ministers are very common in all parts of Canada.
It really doesn’t have much to do with the rubrics for an EMHC. It has to do with layperson versus ordained.

As a layman it’s never OK for me to give you a blessing in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit while making the sign of the cross over you. Not ever.

As an EMHC if an adult comes up for a blessing (which only happens if I am also serving Mass and the visitor confuses me for a cleric), I’ll gently glide him/her over to the priest or deacon on my right. The cleric immediately knows what’s going on and all goes smoothly.

Far more often I have little kids who come up with their parents. While covering the ciborium or chalice with my hand, I will discreetly bend down and say “may God richly bless you on this very special day.”
 
That might well be the case, but it’s up to the Church and not us. The Church has not prohibited the widespread practice and that speaks volumes.

When I was an infant, beginning perhaps when I was 3 years old, I remember going to the altar rail with my dad. I did that because my parents didn’t want me wandering away while they were at communion. I distinctly remember the priest blessing me in the name of the Holy Trinity while tracing a cross on my forehead. This would have been 1968-69 and I’m sure the practice did not begin that year.
You’re certainly right that it’s not up to us.

You know, now that you mention it, I recall being blessed as a child prior to my first Communion back in the early 80’s. I wonder if that’s how it originated? I certainly wouldn’t expect parents to leave their children behind in the pew.

In any case, it’s hardly the worst example of “liturgical experimentation”. I’ve never lost sleep over it. That it hasn’t been specifically addressed yet would seem to indicate that it’s not high on the priority list for the CDWDS either. I still have my doubts about how appropriate it is. When I served as an EMHC, I always felt uncomfortable when people expected me to give them a blessing. Of course, the alternative is that I give them the Eucharist, something of infinitely greater value than my blessing! 😉
 

It seems the “widespread practice” would fall under this: So basicly an illicit practice.

RS–2004
[27.] As early as the year 1970, the Apostolic See announced the cessation of all experimentation as regards the celebration of Holy Mass[62] and reiterated the same in 1988.[63] Accordingly, **individual Bishops and their Conferences do not have the faculty to permit experimentation with liturgical texts or the other matters that are prescribed in the liturgical books. **In order to carry out experimentation of this kind in the future, the permission of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments is required. It must be in writing, and it is to be requested by the Conference of Bishops. In fact, it will not be granted without serious reason. As regards projects of inculturation in liturgical matters, the particular norms that have been established are strictly and comprehensively to be observed.[64]
I really don’t think it is an “illicit practice.” If it were, I think we would have had some specific clarifying language from the Church given its widespread practice.

In any event, the interpretation of the language you provided is up the Church and not you.
 
I really don’t think it is an “illicit practice.” If it were, I think we would have had some specific clarifying language from the Church given its widespread practice.

In any event, the interpretation of the language you provided is up the Church and not you.

But you see—it is not me. Can you produce an authoritative document --that prescribes the blessing of people at communion time.

RS–2004

[12.] On the contrary, it is the right of all of Christ’s faithful that the Liturgy, and in particular the celebration of Holy Mass, should truly be as the Church wishes, according to her stipulations as prescribed in the liturgical books and in the other laws and norms. Likewise, the Catholic people have the right that the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass should be celebrated for them in an integral manner, according to the entire doctrine of the Church’s Magisterium. Finally, it is the Catholic community’s right that the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharist should be carried out for it in such a manner that it truly stands out as a sacrament of unity, to the exclusion of all blemishes and actions that might engender divisions and factions in the Church.
 
RS–2004
[27.] As early as the year 1970, the Apostolic See announced the cessation of all experimentation as regards the celebration of Holy Mass[62] and reiterated the same in 1988.[63] Accordingly, individual Bishops and their Conferences do not have the faculty to permit experimentation with liturgical texts or the other matters that are prescribed in the liturgical books. In order to carry out experimentation of this kind in the future, the permission of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments is required. It must be in writing, and it is to be requested by the Conference of Bishops. In fact, it will not be granted without serious reason. As regards projects of inculturation in liturgical matters, the particular norms that have been established are strictly and comprehensively to be observed.[64]

How do you know that the Congregaation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments has not given permission to your Bishops? There are some parts of the Mass like the consecration that can not be changed even by the Pope but there are other parts that can be changed. By experimentation was this what was being talked about or was it the Priest going to the laity in their seats and giving them communion, was it using levened bread, or bread made with ingredients that are not normal or Priests using prayers other than those prescribed for the consecration that the Pope and the Congegation was getting at. I have heard of all of the things I mentioned above as having occured. Unless you are a Canon Lawyer I would take my question to my Bishop or the Conference of Bishops before going to the Congregation for Divine Worship. We have a very sedate Mass but in parts of Africa they dance while singing during the Mass. Different cultures and different circumstances result in different practices that have been deamed acceptable by the Congregation for Devine Worship.
 
This thought just occurred to me as well, but a larger question might be whether or not it is appropriate for anyone to give a blessing during Communion. It seems like the time for the distribution of Communion is for the distribution of Communion, not the imparting of blessings. I know the practice probably sprung up as a way for everyone to be included, and yet not feel obligated to inappropriately receive Communion (which I think is a noble goal, even if not gone about in the right way). To my knowledge, the CDWDS has not really spoken on this one way or the other at this point.
Would God, especially in the person of Jesus Christ, refuse a blessing to anybody who sought that blessing, regardless of place or time? Think about how many times Jesus admonished the Apostles for trying to keep an individual from coming to Him.
Does the blessing that is given disrupt the Mass? Even in the Tridentine Mass, before Vatican II, there were times when lay people approached the altar for blessings. I think specifically of the blessing of the throats on the feast of St. Blaise. True, this was after communion, just as the anointing of the sick is done at a different time than communion. In those cases, we are talking about everybody coming forward for the blessing and/or anointing.
It is not true that a lay person cannot bless in the name of the Trinity. In case of emergency, we even have the right to administer the Sacrament of Baptism. It is the only Sacrament that a layperson can administer. The Sacrament of Matrimony is merely witnessed by the priest. It is a gift between spouses.
Throughout scripture, there are examples of persons blessing one another, generally a patriarch blessing his children.
We do need to differentiate between blessing and anointing. Anointing is limited to the priest. There is also no way that I would bless somebody in a manner other than in the way that my mother blessed me every morning that I left home. That blessing protected a very adventurous child from harm throughout the day. In other words, I would place my hand on a person’s forehead and trace the sign of the cross. I would not move my hand before my own face and bless in the manner of a priest in the confessional or elsewhere.
A different way of viewing a person approaching the altar for a blessing is as a pious act of humility. It is a public statement by the person, for whatever reason, that he/she cannot receive the Eucharist despite his/her love of the Sacrament. I don’t have that courage.
 
RS–2004
[27.] As early as the year 1970, the Apostolic See announced the cessation of all experimentation as regards the celebration of Holy Mass[62] and reiterated the same in 1988.[63] Accordingly, individual Bishops and their Conferences do not have the faculty to permit experimentation with liturgical texts or the other matters that are prescribed in the liturgical books. In order to carry out experimentation of this kind in the future, the permission of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments is required. It must be in writing, and it is to be requested by the Conference of Bishops. In fact, it will not be granted without serious reason. As regards projects of inculturation in liturgical matters, the particular norms that have been established are strictly and comprehensively to be observed.[64]

How do you know that the Congregaation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments has not given permission to your Bishops? There are some parts of the Mass like the consecration that can not be changed even by the Pope but there are other parts that can be changed. By experimentation was this what was being talked about or was it the Priest going to the laity in their seats and giving them communion, was it using levened bread, or bread made with ingredients that are not normal or Priests using prayers other than those prescribed for the consecration that the Pope and the Congegation was getting at. I have heard of all of the things I mentioned above as having occured. Unless you are a Canon Lawyer I would take my question to my Bishop or the Conference of Bishops before going to the Congregation for Divine Worship. We have a very sedate Mass but in parts of Africa they dance while singing during the Mass. Different cultures and different circumstances result in different practices that have been deamed acceptable by the Congregation for Devine Worship.
Indults apply to national epixcopal conferences, not to individual bishops. Furthermore, the example that you provided applies only to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and, with restrictions, as noted by Francis Cardinal Arinze.
 
Would God, especially in the person of Jesus Christ, refuse a blessing to anybody who sought that blessing, regardless of place or time? Think about how many times Jesus admonished the Apostles for trying to keep an individual from coming to Him.
Does the blessing that is given disrupt the Mass? Even in the Tridentine Mass, before Vatican II, there were times when lay people approached the altar for blessings. I think specifically of the blessing of the throats on the feast of St. Blaise. True, this was after communion, just as the anointing of the sick is done at a different time than communion. In those cases, we are talking about everybody coming forward for the blessing and/or anointing.
It is not true that a lay person cannot bless in the name of the Trinity. In case of emergency, we even have the right to administer the Sacrament of Baptism. It is the only Sacrament that a layperson can administer. The Sacrament of Matrimony is merely witnessed by the priest. It is a gift between spouses.
Throughout scripture, there are examples of persons blessing one another, generally a patriarch blessing his children.
We do need to differentiate between blessing and anointing. Anointing is limited to the priest. There is also no way that I would bless somebody in a manner other than in the way that my mother blessed me every morning that I left home. That blessing protected a very adventurous child from harm throughout the day. In other words, I would place my hand on a person’s forehead and trace the sign of the cross. I would not move my hand before my own face and bless in the manner of a priest in the confessional or elsewhere.
A different way of viewing a person approaching the altar for a blessing is as a pious act of humility. It is a public statement by the person, for whatever reason, that he/she cannot receive the Eucharist despite his/her love of the Sacrament. I don’t have that courage.
But, the admonishment that Jesus made was not done within the context of the liturgy. Clearly, the episode with the children didn’t happen during the sacriificial, cultic worship of God. You need to make a distinction.

Furthermore, a greater act of humility, in my opinion, is to remain in your pew, if you cannot receive Holy Communion for whatever reason, and make a spiritual communion. This practice has been advocated by the saints, but, it seems, it is ignored right now, especially in this thread. This is a valid option that the Church offers.
 
RS–2004
[27.] As early as the year 1970, the Apostolic See announced the cessation of all experimentation as regards the celebration of Holy Mass[62] and reiterated the same in 1988.[63] Accordingly, individual Bishops and their Conferences do not have the faculty to permit experimentation with liturgical texts or the other matters that are prescribed in the liturgical books. In order to carry out experimentation of this kind in the future, the permission of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments is required. It must be in writing, and it is to be requested by the Conference of Bishops. In fact, it will not be granted without serious reason. As regards projects of inculturation in liturgical matters, the particular norms that have been established are strictly and comprehensively to be observed.[64]

How do you know that the Congregaation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments has not given permission to your Bishops? There are some parts of the Mass like the consecration that can not be changed even by the Pope but there are other parts that can be changed. By experimentation was this what was being talked about or was it the Priest going to the laity in their seats and giving them communion, was it using levened bread, or bread made with ingredients that are not normal or Priests using prayers other than those prescribed for the consecration that the Pope and the Congegation was getting at. I have heard of all of the things I mentioned above as having occured. Unless you are a Canon Lawyer I would take my question to my Bishop or the Conference of Bishops before going to the Congregation for Divine Worship. We have a very sedate Mass but in parts of Africa they dance while singing during the Mass. Different cultures and different circumstances result in different practices that have been deamed acceptable by the Congregation for Devine Worship.

We know what the Church approves of—because it is stated in Her liturgical books/laws/directives/norms. For something to be incorporated into the Mass–it needs to be submitted to and receive a recognitio from Rome —which would then make it allowable to be done in Mass. Unless you or anyone else can find an authoritative document where the Church prescribes blessings at communion time via directives in liturgical books/laws/norms–it was an illicit practice when it started and continues to be an illicit practice—since it has not become part of the Church’s prescribed liturgical books/laws/directives/norms.

RS–2004

[11.] The Mystery of the Eucharist “is too great for anyone to permit himself to treat it according to his own whim, so that its sacredness and its universal ordering would be obscured”.[27] On the contrary, anyone who acts thus by giving free reign to his own inclinations, even if he is a Priest, injures the substantial unity of the Roman Rite, which ought to be vigorously preserved,[28] and becomes responsible for actions that are in no way consistent with the hunger and thirst for the living God that is experienced by the people today. Nor do such actions serve authentic pastoral care or proper liturgical renewal; instead, they deprive Christ’s faithful of their patrimony and their heritage. For arbitrary actions are not conducive to true renewal,[29] but are detrimental to the right of Christ’s faithful to a liturgical celebration that is an expression of the Church’s life in accordance with her tradition and discipline. In the end, they introduce elements of distortion and disharmony into the very celebration of the Eucharist, which is oriented in its own lofty way and by its very nature to signifying and wondrously bringing about the communion of divine life and the unity of the People of God.[30] The result is uncertainty in matters of doctrine, perplexity and scandal on the part of the People of God, and, almost as a necessary consequence, vigorous opposition, all of which greatly confuse and sadden many of Christ’s faithful in this age of ours when Christian life is often particularly difficult on account of the inroads of “secularization” as well.[31]

[12.] On the contrary, it is the right of all of Christ’s faithful that the Liturgy, and in particular the celebration of Holy Mass, should truly be as the Church wishes, according to her stipulations as prescribed in the liturgical books and in the other laws and norms. Likewise, the Catholic people have the right that the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass should be celebrated for them in an integral manner, according to the entire doctrine of the Church’s Magisterium. Finally, it is the Catholic community’s right that the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharist should be carried out for it in such a manner that it truly stands out as a sacrament of unity, to the exclusion of all blemishes and actions that might engender divisions and factions in the Church.[32]
 

But you see—it is not me. Can you produce an authoritative document --that prescribes the blessing of people at communion time.

RS–2004

[12.] On the contrary, it is the right of all of Christ’s faithful that the Liturgy, and in particular the celebration of Holy Mass, should truly be as the Church wishes, according to her stipulations as prescribed in the liturgical books and in the other laws and norms. Likewise, the Catholic people have the right that the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass should be celebrated for them in an integral manner, according to the entire doctrine of the Church’s Magisterium. Finally, it is the Catholic community’s right that the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharist should be carried out for it in such a manner that it truly stands out as a sacrament of unity, to the exclusion of all blemishes and actions that might engender divisions and factions in the Church.
Walking Home can you tell me something about yourself please? Are you a theologian, a Canon Lawyer, a Priest or Bishop or Deacon? What training have you had that you have gained knowledge of all the rules of the Church and how to interpret them? Please tell me about yourself. Thanks
 
But, the admonishment that Jesus made was not done within the context of the liturgy. Clearly, the episode with the children didn’t happen during the sacriificial, cultic worship of God. You need to make a distinction.

Furthermore, a greater act of humility, in my opinion, is to remain in your pew, if you cannot receive Holy Communion for whatever reason, and make a spiritual communion. This practice has been advocated by the saints, but, it seems, it is ignored right now, especially in this thread. This is a valid option that the Church offers.
Do we know that person has not made a spiritual communion? I don’t since that is made internally. We do not know that the person is not being led by God. We also know from Scripture that Jesus was criticized by the Pharisees for healing on the Sabbath within and without the Temple, a place of worship for the devout Jew. What I am saying is not to judge the devotion of others attending Mass…
 
Does the blessing that is given disrupt the Mass? Even in the Tridentine Mass, before Vatican II, there were times when lay people approached the altar for blessings. I think specifically of the blessing of the throats on the feast of St. Blaise. True, this was after communion, just as the anointing of the sick is done at a different time than communion. In those cases, we are talking about everybody coming forward for the blessing and/or anointing.
It’s not a matter of disruption, it’s a matter of properness. Why should these blessings happen during Communion?

If the blessing of non-communicants is approved by the Church, it should happen in a manner identical to that of the blessing of the throats on the Feast of St. Blaise. The blessing of non-communicants is not a Eucharistic blessing, is it? It’s not an actual “act of spiritual communion” as far as I’ve heard.
 
Walking Home can you tell me something about yourself please? Are you a theologian, a Canon Lawyer, a Priest or Bishop or Deacon? What training have you had that you have gained knowledge of all the rules of the Church and how to interpret them? Please tell me about yourself. Thanks
PLEASE let’s not start doing this! This is how threads get locked and deleted! 😦

Walking_Home is simply reading RS 12 without applying any bias (that I can detect). The liturgy “should truly be as the Church wishes, according to her stipulations as prescribed in the liturgical books and in the other laws and norms”. If the blessing of non-communicants during the Communion procession is something “the Church wishes” for Her liturgy, then it follows that it should be found somewhere, “prescribed in the liturgical books [or] other laws and norms”. Walking_Home is simply asking for evidence that seems reasonable.

PLEASE do us a favor, and don’t conduct yourself in a way that might cause this or any other Liturgy & Sacraments thread to get locked or deleted.
 

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But you see—it is not me. Can you produce an authoritative document --that prescribes the blessing of people at communion time.

RS–2004

[12.] On the contrary, it is the right of all of Christ’s faithful that the Liturgy, and in particular the celebration of Holy Mass, should truly be as the Church wishes, according to her stipulations as prescribed in the liturgical books and in the other laws and norms. Likewise, the Catholic people have the right that the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass should be celebrated for them in an integral manner, according to the entire doctrine of the Church’s Magisterium. Finally, it is the Catholic community’s right that the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharist should be carried out for it in such a manner that it truly stands out as a sacrament of unity, to the exclusion of all blemishes and actions that might engender divisions and factions in the Church.

Walking Home can you tell me something about yourself please? Are you a theologian, a Canon Lawyer, a Priest or Bishop or Deacon? What training have you had that you have gained knowledge of all the rules of the Church **and how to interpret them? ** Please tell me about yourself. Thanks

This is not as they say " rocket science". The documents are pretty well self explanatory. You know —usually I come across the statement like yours above—when someone is trying to find a way to silence the documents and those who read them.
 
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