End Times Theology: Premillennialism

[cajunhillbilly]

Jesus will not reign in the flesh on earth for only for a literal thousand years. (Jesus is said to reign on earth in the Eucharist now by some people.) Jesus will come again and reign forever, and the earth will be the ‘new’ earth which is restored to its original state and thus becomes some kind of extension of heaven. All those who died in state of grace will be there too. Christians will not be raptured as per the definition for rapture used by Protestants. The last days began with Jesus. On the other hand what we typically mean by ‘end times’ which aligns with Rev. chapter 20’s Short Time of Satan (also called the Time of the End in Daniel) that comes just before the return of Jesus is here, in my and many others’ opinions.

God bless you.

Please stop referring to the pretrip rapture view as “The Protestant” view. It is NOT the Protestant view. It is held by a vocal MINORITY of Protestants. In fact you will find the view of most Protestants to be closer to what you are saying. By the way I also recommend the book by Scott Hahn.

 

[beehumble]

Please stop referring to the pretrip rapture view as “The Protestant” view. It is NOT the Protestant view. It is held by a vocal MINORITY of Protestants. In fact you will find the view of most Protestants to be closer to what you are saying. By the way I also recommend the book by Scott Hahn.

Ok, I will try!! Exactly, all their loud vocalizations got me thinking that a good sized number of non-mainline protestants hold the view.

Since I suspect most posters asking about the rapture *are *referring to that very vocal but minority viewpoint, I will try to remember to either refer to it as ‘held by some protestants’ or ‘held by a vocal minority of protestants and the one you are most likely referring to…’

But if I slip, please don’t take offense as no offense is intended!!

God bless you.

 

[Chafer_DTS]

Anna,

Scott Hahn has a study on Revelation that is good and he recommends David Chilton, Days of Fire and Vengance as a Postmillenial view book. My understanding of end times is that it will come. What is certain is that my time will end and whether it coincides with all time who knows?

Please avoid David Chilton. Before he died he embraced what is called full preterism. He in this view denied a future , visible and physical second coming of Jesus Christ and denies a physical resurrection of the dead and says we are presently in the eternal state. This view is considered heretical.

 

[Rabbity]

I highly recommend it!

I discovered the book after watching part of the series on EWTN. It’s really good and helped to put it in a context I hadn’t heard from anyone before. I recommend his book “Letter and Spirit” as a follow-up.

 

[cajunhillbilly]

Please avoid David Chilton. Before he died he embraced what is called full preterism. He in this view denied a future , visible and physical second coming of Jesus Christ and denies a physical resurrection of the dead and says we are presently in the eternal state. This view is considered heretical.

Really? I never knew he went full preterist? That is unfortunate.

 

[Anna_Scott]

I discovered the book after watching part of the series on EWTN. It’s really good and helped to put it in a context I hadn’t heard from anyone before. I recommend his book “Letter and Spirit” as a follow-up.

Rabbity,

Another Scott Hahn fan, I see.

I’ve read 3 of Hahn’s books, but not Letter and Spirit. Thanks for the recommendation.

Peace and blessings,
Anna

 

[KathleenGee]

Hi Anna,

So goody you are reading Scott’s book…I am getting through … still…Tom Nash’s book, ‘Worthy is the Lamb’, that shows from his angle, more biblical roots of the Mass…as well as Revelation…and Ch 22.

I am also reading Cardinal Ratzinger’s book, ‘Spirit of the Liturgy’, where he is imploring we also take on a more cosmic view of Christ…how all of creation is renewed by Him…

In ‘Spirit of the Liturgy’, on the chapter of Sacred Time, he speaks that Christ specifically chose the date for His coming, as the apostles stated He was coming at the preappointed time.

The time Christ picked was testimony not only to us and Jewish believers, but to history, humanity, and the cosmos, the entirety of creation.

I wrote about it on the recent thread, ‘May they all be one…’ and am too tired, 3 nights up a week, to repeat it.

 

[Chafer_DTS]

Really? I never knew he went full preterist? That is unfortunate.

He did right before he died. A most sad case.