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Where in the heck do all these Fundamentalists get the stuff about a “One World Church,” “One World Government,” and “One World Currency” from anyways?
 
They have read and misinterpreted The Book of Revelation. After all, they have no authority, such as a Pope, and they read things into it that aren’t there.

They take the Bible literally, except for John’s gospel where Jesus says “This is my Body…anyone who doesn’t eat of it will have no life in you” saying that’s symbolic, but all the dream-like Revelations, full of symbols, they take as concrete, absolute literal truth.

Someone recently asked what changed Jesus from the loving, forgiving God of the Gospels to this strong armed, punishing God in Revelation. They think Catholics will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. People like John Hagee have written books about this that appear to be “pro-Israel” when in fact they want a war, Armageddon, to happen right after they “save” as many Jews as possible.

He calls the Catholic Church “the whore of Babylon”. He says he doesn’t hate Catholics, or Jews, he just wants them to be more like him. Why should I want more like him?
 
Katrina5 said:
They have read and misinterpreted The Book of Revelation. After all, they have no authority, such as a Pope, and they read things into it that aren’t there.

They take the Bible literally, except for John’s gospel where Jesus says “This is my Body…anyone who doesn’t eat of it will have no life in you” saying that’s symbolic, but all the dream-like Revelations, full of symbols, they take as concrete, absolute literal truth.

Someone recently asked what changed Jesus from the loving, forgiving God of the Gospels to this strong armed, punishing God in Revelation. They think Catholics will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. People like John Hagee have written books about this that appear to be “pro-Israel” when in fact they want a war, Armageddon, to happen right after they “save” as many Jews as possible.

He calls the Catholic Church “the whore of Babylon”. He says he doesn’t hate Catholics, or Jews, he just wants them to be more like him. Why should I want more like him?
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No, you don’t want anymore like him…During the time of Christ - Rome had gained control over the region of Jerusalem. The prophecies back then are not much different than the prophecies we hear today about it. Why is it that Revelations (by those who interpret it) - is Rome at the center (again)? That’s what I don’t understand?

Also, there are also a group of activists that dug an illegal tunnel to get to the temple mount but had failed - they were caught and arrest. While another group tried,previously to the first, to dig through the chambers (The underground tunnel at the center of the controversy was known officially in the 1980’s as the “Western Wall Tunnel.”)

The digging and the rushing unto the mount - almost or would have caused - another riot or worst case scenario WWIII.

Are people being not sensitive or better educated - to know how it will effect the entire region?
 
Even from a Catholic perspective you can come to an interpretation of a one world government and religious system of the Antichrist. The Antichrist will require nothing less than worship of him, and the False Prophet will be a religious figure who will be an instrument to get people to worship the Antichrist. I have written a couple of commentaries on Revelation and I am in the process of putting together a Catholic Study Bible in which has footnotes primarily from the Fathers of the Church and Traditional sources. Here is a short take on it from me

During the 3 and a half year Tribulation period prior to the 2nd coming of Christ, the Antichrist will come to power. He will have power given to him from Satan. There will be another figure called the False Prophet who will have the same power from Satan. The Antichrist will be a world leader, probably Jewish, because he will pretend to be the Messiah and God, and will probably rebuild the Jewish Temple. The False Prophet will be a religious figure who will lead people to worship the Antichrist. They will display supernatural powers in order to get people to follow them. The Antichrist will team up with secular (the great harlot) and religious nations and powers long enough to gain enough power to take over the world and to bring persection to the Church, but once he has acomplished that he will then turn on those nations and destroy them because he will demand worship to him alone. The Mark of the Beast 666 is more than likely not a literal mark but a confession of faith that is a denial of Jesus, and unless you deny Jesus you cannot buy or sell anything. This will be a time when God’s people will have to come together and depend on eachother for basic needs. People will be given a clear choice to follow God or not, and their lives will be in serious danger if they are Christians.

Here is my commentaryon Revelation litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Commentary+on+Revelation+by+John+Litteral

Here is my critique on the Great Tribulation catenas.wetpaint.com/page/The+Great+Tribulation
 
For a more mature and thourough treatise on the book of the “Revelation of John” - see Scott Hahn’s book “The Lamb’s Supper”.
 
StTommyMore said:
Where in the heck do all these Fundamentalists get the stuff about a “One World Church,” “One World Government,” and “One World Currency” from anyways?
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I think they read into the scriptures what they think is happening. They are trying to find answers to the chaos. My view is that some of these things are happening because, back in the 1990’s, I read books by good Catholic men who researched these things. I don’t believe everything is a conspiracy in the sense that we think of conspiracy but history points to the push for these things. If you go back and study modern times, that is, from approximately the 1700’s to the present, you see the trends starting with Freemasonry and Marxism spreading into all areas of government and society. Pope Leo XIII’s encyclical, Humanum Genus, excoriates Freemasonry. Why? Because their goals is the overthrow of all Christian Nations and building a world without God. I think that as belief in God wanes, man naturally tries to build a utopia on earth. Man thinks he has all the answers in science, etc. A modern day Tower of Babel.

I know this is hard to accept and I don’t see it in scripture except in the general sense, for example, in the wickedness of man. I don’t see Hal Lindsey’s interpretation as being correct and people like him because they find in scripture the day to day news there. I don’t think we are necessarily in the last few years of existence either. I think fundamentalists feel something big is happening in the world and are simply trying to find answers. I too am trying to find answers but the answer is ultimately in our Faith in God. He will take care of us. We can look around us and try to figure out what is going on but we must have peace in God who said He would take care of us.
 
rdscheirer said:
For a more mature and thourough treatise on the book of the “Revelation of John” - see Scott Hahn’s book “The Lamb’s Supper”.
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That amazing book is in my library. I tend to favor things in print over something on the web.
 
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