Engaged to a non-Catholic

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Dear Asquared,

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the difference is fundamental and monumental. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ, all protestant denominations were founded by men. The Catholic Church preserves the fullness of the Truth revealed by God, protestant denominations retain some truths, reject others, and misrepresent the rest. A fundamental difference, which colors everything else, is the essential view on the nature of man. Catholic theology sees man and all created things as essentially good, but flawed and broken through sin, but capable of redemption through Jesus Christ. Protestant theology of the Reformation, no matter what sects developed from it, sees man as essentially evil, cabable only of having this evil covered by Jesus, but never completely removed.

Where did you learn this? Not from Protestants, I believe. Protestants also believe that men are created good. May be the term IMAGO DEI will be good for you.
Clearly you never try to understand or know about Protestants except from some Protestant haters.

Neverland
 
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beachieca:
I don’t see it as Satan working. I see it as I may not believe what the Catholic Church. I am NOT denying Christ as my savior and in my heart I know what I stand for in my relationship with Christ. My fiance may be the reason why I have quesitons…but there is nothing wrong with questions. Am I wrong? If I were changing my faith in a more dramatic/drastic way then I would be more concerned about myself. But that isn’t the case.
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“He who hears you, hears me. He who rejects you, rejects me”. Christ and His Church are one. Rejecting His Church is rejecting Him.

You have been confused by a Protestant boyfriend who does not understand the Catholic faith. YOU do not understand the Catholic faith.

This is a serious issue. I don’t think you even know enough to make an informed decision. The fact that you are willing to listen to your boyfriend over your family and your church basically makes me wonder why you are even here on this forum. Why do you care about our opinions? You seem determined to ignore our advice, your family’s advice, and your Church’s teachings.

Love can be blind, and I think you are being blind and very short sighted. You are willing to give up your Faith for your boyfriend. There are martyrs who chose death over giving up their Faith. You propose that one Christian Church is just as good as another, and this is not true. The Protestant churches contain some truth and much error.
 
Dear 1ke,

Like being a Protestant is a sin. Let God judge, not human. That you compared it with persecution of the martyrs.

Neverland
 
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Neverland:
Christianinty, Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, they believe in Jesus. I sometimes go to Catholic Church and never feel offended with the difference. The difference is not that much.
Good luck, Sis.

Neverland
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The difference is a chasm. The Protestant churches are filled with error. The Catholic Church was founded by Christ and is His Bride.
 
Dear 1Ke,

Care to tell me why there was Protestant Movement? And what are the errors, I would love to know.

Neverland
 
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1ke:
The Catholic Church was founded by Christ and is His Bride.
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St Ignatius of Antioch

You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop, or by one whom he appoints. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church (*Letter to the Smyrnaeans *8:1 A.D. 110]).
 
Dear All,

Jesus said:
When two or three people gather in my name, I am present.
So is it wrong if some Protestants who wants to know about God and Bible gather and pray to God for guidance before reading it and discussing it?

Neverland
 
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Neverland:
Dear All,

Jesus said:
When two or three people gather in my name, I am present.
So is it wrong if some Protestants who wants to know about God and Bible gather and pray to God for guidance before reading it and discussing it?

Neverland
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Not at all. But when it comes time to read and discuss, they will need a proper interpretation of what they are reading–hence, the Catholic Church. 👍
 
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beachieca:
I would be willing to compromise because I am not sure about the Catholic faith anymore. My fiance has pointed out things that when he explains it makes perfect sense to me. To me, Christianity and Catholicism DO have their differences, but not so much that it should keep me from marrying someone I love. I don’t feel like I would be turning my back on God or that I would be missing out on anything. I know that that may sound wrong, but it’s how I feel. I know that the Catholic Church now recognizes Protestant marriages as valid or “real” marriages. I just wouldn’t be able to re-marry in the Catholic Church. For any future children, I would want them to have a strong background, belief and morals in Jesus Christ, know that he died for our sins, and obey the ten commandments. Of course, that isn’t all it entails, but for a beginning. It doesn’t say anywhere in the Bible that not being a Catholic is reason to not get into heaven. Christians are saved just as Catholics are, correct?
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  1. Catholics are Christians!!! (Geez!)
  2. If you marry outside the Catholic Church, you can later marry inside it. This is what my wife and I did.
 
I know exaclty how you are feeling. I feel like I could have written it myself. I am having the same issues with my family, and the same issue with my fiance knowing the bible really well and having doubts/questions about the catholic faith. My fiance was raised pentacostal and his father was preacher. He knows that wouldn’t work for me therefore he has not pressured me one bit to lean that way, even knowing how much it would please his parents. In that case, I feel like I need to have the same respect for him not making a drastic change into something he can’t fully believe in himself. We are trying to make a compromise and visiting many chuches, including catholic just for him to undertsand where I come from. I won’t even step foot in a pentacostal or even baptist chuch, I think says alot that he will go to mine. Also, in the area we live in, I can’t find a parish that I am totally comfortable with and would want to make an impression on my fiance. We are going to talk to my parent’s priest (we are getting married where my parents live now) about our issues so we can get answers about these questions he has brought up, and maybe we can go from there. I know that a catholic wedding may not happen, but I have made my peace with that, I just don’t think anyone else will.

I feel sorry for you being blasted like this on this site by people saying you have picked a man over Jesus. I personally feel in my heart that God has chosen the perfect man for me, and that has made me closer to God, seeing what he is capable of. That is my personal thought, and this whole situation makes me wish that all these religions were not such an issue as long as you are following Christ. Why is worshiping our creator such a confusion? It makes me really sad that the Catholic church has so many restrictions, and that is where my doubt comes from.
 
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jclaire:
It makes me really sad that the Catholic church has so many restrictions, and that is where my doubt comes from.
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I agree with you in the sense that more Christian love and charity should be shown at all times. But I am confused by your last statement. Christ instituted the Catholic Church–the pillar and foundation of Truth. Yet you are saying there are “so many restrictions”. Can you be more specific? Are you also saying that you “doubt” the fullness of Truth in the Catholic Church based on the behavior of some of the people within that Church?
 
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Neverland:
Dear 1Ke,

Care to tell me why there was Protestant Movement?
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Because man is sinful and rebellious.
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Neverland:
And what are the errors, I would love to know.
Neverland
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Too numerous to name, but here are a few:

the false doctrine of Sola Scriptura
the false doctrine of Sola Fide
denial of the Sacraments
denial of Baptism as a necessary Sacrament
denial of the Communion of Saints
denial of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist
denial of the Pope as the head of the Church
denial of Papal Infallibility
denial of Sacred Tradition
denial of the authority of the Bishops

…and many others up to and including denial of the Trinity itself depending upon the denomination.

And, if you care to discuss any of these items, you need to start a new thread in Apologetics, not continue it here on this thread which is not about specific doctrines.
 
I read the whole thread, but let me just reply to the original poster.

After having just broken off my relationship (Or gotten it broke off by her father - a preacher) I can say now, after only two weeks, thaf it is just not healthy to be in that kind of relationship where both partners have a different faith.

Our relationship was great, perfect even. We didn’t have a single fight for a year and a half. That was when I didn’t care about God. As soon as I reverted to Catholicism, our relationship lasted about three more months. Her dad found out, forbid her to see me. She disagreed with that so she continued to see me, but eventually she caved into him. Every time we talked all she could come up with is “The Catholic Church is wrong.”

If her parents are practicing Protestants, and you family is devout Catholics, prepare for A LOT of heartache, A LOT of fighting.
 
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Unfinished:
Her dad found out, forbid her to see me. She disagreed with that so she continued to see me, but eventually she caved into him. Every time we talked all she could come up with is “The Catholic Church is wrong.”
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Sorry to hear that. My girlfriend broke the other way. She choose me over her fanatical father (also a preacher), converted to Catholicism and because of this he no longer wants to see her or talk to her. His loss. It is sad to hear you say she cared less when you didnt follow God then when you decided to join the Catholic Church. In fact my girlfriends father said the same type of thing. He said he would rather her become Jewish, mormon or stop believing in God altogether rather then become Catholic. Great advice from a paster aint it? It is scary to think this guy leads youth groups.

God bless
 
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Unfinished:
If her parents are practicing Protestants, and you family is devout Catholics, prepare for A LOT of heartache, A LOT of fighting.
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This is unfortunately the experience one of my BIL’s has made with 2 Calvinist women (one a preachers’ daughter) he dated…He is a very devout Catholic but lives among Calvinists in South Africa, so every woman he meets is a Calvinist…and it’s fine until the parents find out he is serious about his religion!

Anna x
 
I have been reading through this thread and I think that some of the people who are posting are getting away from the intent of the orignal post and we may need to start new threads to discuss things brought up more fully. Its getting a bit uncharitable around here.
 
It looks like she hasn’t posted since the day after she started this thread. I hope she didn’t get frustrated and leave forever.
 
jclaire,

it is not that the Church has too many restrictions but that people are so easily led astray into making poor choices. It is nice that you see your boyfriend as heaven sent but that is only a matter of opinion. The Gospels and our faith really are heaven sent and it does damage or perhaps destroy your relationship with God to go your own way. Look how many people in the Scriptures try to go their own way? Things don’t work out for them. Trust God’s plan laid out for you in the Bible and the Church.

My Presbyterian wife says she hopes my aged aunt who never married is kept warm by her convictions. Auntie broke it off while a young woman with a divorceee once she knew he was divorced. He came back a year later and she said are you still divorced and he said yes and she said then I haven’t changed my mind. It seems quaint today but the reality is the same in 1945 as 2006. Why risk the salvation of your soul for a man?
 
Dear 1ke,

you said:
the false doctrine of Sola Scriptura
the false doctrine of Sola Fide

Explain to me what is false. Against anything in Bible as our Jesus taught us?

You said:
denial of the Sacraments

What sacraments?

You said:
denial of Baptism as a necessary Sacrament

You are really misled by I don’t know who. Nowhere Protestant said that Baptism is not necessary. Not my church.
I even wonder about Catholic’s rule that Protestants converted to Catholic should be baptized once more, eventhough he/she has been baptized before, in the name of The Father and the Son and The Holy Spirit. Care to explain?

You said:
denial of the Communion of Saints

In what case? We respect martyrs and saints who defend their faiths (I even read about Aloysius, Agnes, and many others). But we don’t pray through them, because we don’t see anything about that in Bible. Is it error, or just different perseption?

You also said:
denial of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist

Hmm, what kind of denial? I told you when two or three people gather under Jesus Christ’s name, Jesus will be present, as HE said. So in Eucharist, there are people gather in HIS name and HE must be present too. I don’t see I ever deny that. Your source is really misleading you.

You said:
denial of the Pope as the head of the Church

Only difference in perception and organization. I don’t see it as something erroenous. With all respect to the Pope, we believe Jesus will lead us through holy spirit, if we are true believers.

You said:
denial of Papal Infallibility

In history, one or two of Papalis policy was not in accordance with Bible. Pope is a human being, a son of God in Jesus Christ, just like us.

You then said:
denial of Sacred Tradition

What tradition?

You continue:
denial of the authority of the Bishops

…and many others up to and including denial of the Trinity itself depending upon the denomination.

Your source is really misleading. Denial of Trinity? You may mistakenly think Protestant as mere JW.

In the first place you said about protestant movement:
Because man is sinful and rebellious.

Is this what you are taught? Funny, have you ever crossed check with the history?

Why you need to open the thread in apologetic? You are not defending Catholic faith. You attack Protestant Faith, while all of us (you and me and every Christians) believe in Jesus Christ and the trinity (The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit). I feel it like a right hand attacking a left hand in the same body with Jesus as the head (boy, He MUST be very sad).
If you like, open a new thread here, and I will enlighten you once and for all.

Neverland
 
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