I would never say that those things you mentioned aren’t important (corporal works of mercy). That is why I said ‘important concerns were touched on.’ I, again, find it worth noting that a Bishop prays without mentioning the Gospel or Jesus’ name. There is more to God than what he prayed about, he left out the good news. What a shame. That is what we all really need, to be led to Christ.
Not passionate enough to stand up for Him at a presidential inauguration. I remain extremely unimpressed with this “bishop”.
maybe he was admiring you in a homosexual kind of way.
Not neccessarily, no, but if you’re on the left of the spectrum, AND non/anti-Christian in your viewpoints and attitudes, then yes: You’re a pagan.
What a terrible and awful thing to say. How shameful and uncharitble!
How terribly unfair and unkind. How awfully uncharitable. You may believe what you wish, but it is uncalled for to spew such vile remarks about others of which you know nothing about. I know of no person who worships either Robinson or Schori. The Anglican church is fine, just going through the similar burps that the RCC has been noted for over the ages. You are still here, and Anglicanism will be too.There are quite a few elements in the Episcopal hierarchy who worship Robinson’s consecration as their god. Such a tragedy. It’s people like this who make it increasingly difficult to be an American Anglican. Good thing the Anglicans in the developing world still worship Jesus rather than Robinson and Schori. I’ll be changing channels during his “prayer” at the inauguration. Maybe I’ll get out an inflatable raft and float around in the Tiber until he’s done.
I’m really at a loss here. Last time I checked, I found that there were any number of religious beliefs in the US and that we prided ourselves on being open to others beliefs. Are Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and a whole cadre of other faiths to be ignored? Is not the US for all people? Robinson simply acknowledges that he is approaching the prayer in an ecumenical fashion. Do all ultra conservative Catholics now claim that we are to ignore and thus discount all other faiths? That gives new meaning to Christendom doesn’t it?
Yes, funny how those who actually go about the business of trying to do as Jesus directed are vilified for not being the right kind of person to do so. Instead we are instructed that although we have no national religion, we are expected to only speak of Christianity. I think Jesus remarked that those who do his father’s will are his brothers and sisters. Gene Robinson is a fine man in my opinion who is a loving and caring priest to his people. Why cannot anyone focus on that instead of their own beliefs that his sexual orientation makes him unfit in THEIR eyes. Their eyes don’t really matter, God’s do, and I don’t choose to speak for God.
Amen to that! The Anglican church is a bit off kilter right now. We have strayed from our foundation that we may differ on many things during the week, but on Sunday we come to worship together as Jesus intended.
It is a matter of speaking the truth.
Seems that way. Accept the parts we like and jettison the parts we find too hard to accept. Nothing new here.
If one wants to have Buddhist , Hindu, Muslim, etc. prayers, then invite a Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, etc. to offer them. However, merely because there are other beliefs in existence is no reason, let alone a justification, for a (erstwhile, at least) Christian to pray to a deity other than the Triune God, or pretend that he is doing so.
Well it is not about speaking the truth. I spoke the truth about the neo conservative movement, to which any neo conservative would agree, and I was told I could not use the name, since it was insulting. It sure isn’t to Billy Kristol and **** cheney.
Does he accept constant teaching on the evilness of homosexual acts?
Thats an extremely novel approach, and one I have not witnessed in any ecumenical situation I’ve ever been in. And by the way, there is but one God, last time I check. We all pray to the same one. Robinson made no claim to pray to another God, for obvious reasons, he simply said he would not couch his prayer in Christian terms, but would be general to include people of all religious persuasions.
Indeed there is but one God. But what does not follow is that all who pray to a god are praying to that God. And to know that one God, and not pray to him explicitly, in conformity to his revelation, is, if one knows of that revelation, and claims to hold to it, to deny him.
It is not pointing out an inadequacy in another faith to act in conformity with revealed truth.
Now this is a very old canard, indeed. My desires do not enter into it, and it’s a bogus, straw man argument to suggest they do. What we are dealing with here is the teaching of the Church - a teaching that was in place when she came into being. Nor is sin merely what man might, from time to time, define it to be, which is another flawed assumption in the above argument.
What it does is show that it is not just Christians who are sensitive to, and offended by, bogus displays of erstwhile piety, which are at odds with the very beliefs the utterer ostensibly avows.
Friend, I’m not sure if you are complimenting me that I am a ‘fetching’ man or being uncharitable toward Gene Robinson by that remark…neither have a place on a board that claims to reflect the spirit of Jesus of Nazareth/