Interesting. I have been told by some Eastern Catholics that they will receive Orthodox Christians into the corresponding Eastern Catholic Church without being Chrismated, but only through a confession of faith. I’m not sure if this is because the Catholic Church believes the Orthodox priesthood to be valid or for some other reason. Perhaps I am remembering incorrectly though.
Interesting. That’s not too much different from our procedure.
You have retained the Apostolic Succession in the Orthodox Church, yes? Is that true?
You are remembering correctly. For Orthodox Christians to be received into their “counterpart” Eastern Catholic Church does not require revisitation of the sacraments of initiation. A profession of faith is sufficient, after episcopal permissions are received. And since Orthodox and EC recite the same Creed already, its a pretty natural event.
Lol, I’m just answering questions. Our priest, as I mentioned, would receive anybody, Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran or Mormon in the same way, although the Mormon would have to be baptized, while the other three wouldn’t.Glad you all are working on options for me, but I am still in the room.
Anna
Same here, regarding Mormons. Their conception of God is so very different that they wouldn’t have used the Trinitarian baptismal formula at all. The Catholic Church doesn’t really consider Mormons to be Christians, if you want to know the truth. They can convert, but we start from the beginning with them.Lol, I’m just answering questions. Our priest, as I mentioned, would receive anybody, Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran or Mormon in the same way, although the Mormon would have to be baptized, while the other three wouldn’t.
The Episcopal Church has run into tough times, and I can see the frustrations it has caused for my Episcopalian friends. It’s a pretty complicated issue, and I feel a great deal of empathy, especially for one of my friends who feels orphaned essentially because he loves the Anglican tradition, disapproves of the direction the Episcopal Church is moving in (but is still a member), but can’t bring himself to join the continuing Anglican movement (I can’t remember what his reasoning is). I hope for the best.
Well, that seems to be the opinion of your Church, coming from Apostolicae Curae I believe, the same document which denied that the Anglicans have retained Apostolic Succession. Of course, the Orthodox have always maintained that we possess Apostolic Succession. Denying that would be ecclesiastical suicide.
As far as Episcopalians go, yes, on a human level I can certainly empathize with the feelings that they must have, watching their churches fall apart like they are. It must be very difficult to endure, particularly if they are stuck and can’t bring themselves to move or change or realize any other way of being.Lol, I’m just answering questions. Our priest, as I mentioned, would receive anybody, Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran or Mormon in the same way, although the Mormon would have to be baptized, while the other three wouldn’t.
The Episcopal Church has run into tough times, and I can see the frustrations it has caused for my Episcopalian friends. It’s a pretty complicated issue, and I feel a great deal of empathy, especially for one of my friends who feels orphaned essentially because he loves the Anglican tradition, disapproves of the direction the Episcopal Church is moving in (but is still a member), but can’t bring himself to join the continuing Anglican movement (I can’t remember what his reasoning is). I hope for the best.
So, Cavaradossi, what are you telling me?…possess Apostolic Succession. Denying that would be ecclesiastical suicide.
Couldn’t resist. It’s the internet, of course, that makes communication difficult, but … Surely, you have a sense of humor. Seriously, iloveangels; can you put down the sledge hammer for just a moment. The pounding noise is drowning out your message.
From what you’ve told me Anna, you may be a convert to Episcopalianism, but it seems to fit you like a glove. I don’t think you need to go looking for another protestant church to belong to. At least not as long as the parish that you described and like there exists. Here’s hoping that it lasts for a long time, and that the Episcopal church gets through its troubles.
Glad you all are working on options for me, but I am still in the room.
Anna
I know. I was just trying to lighten the mood a bit.
iloveangels,
Well then, as long as you don’t want to recognize the authority of the Pope, you should probably stay there. Or perhaps, become Orthodox.
iloveangels,
I understand that exactly. There was a time when I felt the same way. I am a convert myself and it took many years for me to get to my present membership in the Catholic Church.iloveangels,
How many pages did it take for us to arrive at somewhat the same conclusion?
It isn’t that I don’t want to recognize the authority of the Pope. Surely, you realize how much easier my life would be, if I could fully embrace Catholicism–and I mean with my whole heart. Anything less would be dishonesty on my part and disrespectful to the Catholic Church.
Anna
Thank you, Anna. I hope that your church situation stays stable and that the Episcopalian church rights itself and comes around. I had a friend long ago who was an Episcopalian and I remember how pretty it was when I accompanied her to church. It’s sad to watch something once so beautiful have so many problems.I am truly happy for you.
Anna