Episcopal Presiding Bishop Michael Curry to preach at Henry and Meghan's Wedding

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Of course, I never agree to bullish demands. But I’m not interested in converting you and never was. Thus, my refusal to engage with a pointless debate.
 
But asking Bishop Curry to give the address was not “insisting” that an African-American give the address, not was it “refusing to consider” anyone but an African-American. You speak piffle.
 
I really would hesitate to say that anyone insisted on anything, for any reason, in this tempest in a tiny teacup generated here. Someone was chosen. Someone was bound to be.The official Anglican Communion is, for all its quirks, flaws and general theological disasters, a group of Churches in sacramental communion. That a high ranking prelate from such a Church could be selected for the role is unremarkable, I suspect that PickyPicky has quite properly tagged this pseudo controversy. Piffle it is.

I can slang establishment Anglicanism better than most here posting and have done so for years. I even think jlhargus, while upping the volume unnecessarily, has it about right on the scripture/tradition/reason points.But this apparent obsession with the whys and wherefores of the selection of the homilist, from all the possible ones who might have been chosen, one who, in the words presented, spoke nothing I can account objectionable, is beyond me.

I reconsider the description above. An attempt at a tempest in a teaspoon. Piffle.
 
PickyPicky said:
But asking Bishop Curry to give the address was not “insisting” that an African-American give the address, not was it “refusing to consider” anyone but an African-American. You speak piffle.
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Exactly. Bishop Curry is the head of the Episcopal Church. For such a high level event as a Royal wedding, I’m not sure what alternative there was once someone suggested that the homily be delivered by an American.

What should they have done? Side-stepped the head of the Episcopal Church for some random white Bishop? How would they have defended such an action?
 
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But asking Bishop Curry to give the address was not “insisting” that an African-American give the address, not was it “refusing to consider” anyone but an African-American. You speak piffle.
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Um, you are the one who suggested it, not me:
Anglican ceremony; organisers keen that the bride’s American background should be reflected during the service; organisers keen that the African-American part of the bride’s background should be reflected during the service. Who will give the address?
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You can’t see why a distinguished African-American Anglican Bishop noted for his address should come to mind? Really?
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You speculated he was chosen because he was Black. So I guess you speak piffle, whatever that ridiculous word means.
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That a high ranking prelate from such a Church could be selected for the role is unremarkable
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If it has never been done before for a royal wedding, and I don’t know that it hasn’t, then I’d say it is quite remarkable whatever the motivation.
 
exnihilo said:
If it has never been done before for a royal wedding, and I don’t know that it hasn’t, then I’d say it is quite remarkable whatever the motivation.
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No other televised British Royal wedding involved a bride from a different nation.

What would you have had them do? Being Catholic, I’m sure you acknowledge the importance and power of symbolism. If the ceremony was officiated by the Head of the C of E why shouldn’t they decide the homily be delivered by the head of the Episcopal Church?
 
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No other televised British Royal wedding involved a bride from a different nation.

What would you have had them do? Being Catholic, I’m sure you acknowledge the importance and power of symbolism. If the ceremony was officiated by the Head of the C of E why shouldn’t they decide the homily be delivered by the head of the Episcopal Church?
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She was baptized in the Church of England. She was at the time of the wedding a British citizen. She has, so far as I know, no ties to the Episcopal Church. It would have been just as sensible had Rick Warren given the sermon.

If this was all Catholic and had she entered the Catholic Church in England, having never been Catholic, I’d have thought it odd if they had Cardinal DiNardo give the homily. It would have been less odd since she at least attended Catholic schools.
 
exnihilo said:
It would have been just as sensible had Rick Warren given the sermon.
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No. It would not have because he is neither a part of the Anglican communion nor is he a leader of a branch of the Anglican communion.
 
You dissemble: I did not suggest that anyone insisted on anything, or that anyone refused to consider anything. You had said you could not understand why Bishop Curry had been suggested as an appropriate priest to give the address, and I gave some reasons why he might have been considered a particularly appropriate choice. He was a particularly appropriate choice.
 
Remind me of the preceding royal marriages involving an American as a headliner.
 
It would to me since the Episcopal Church is suspended from the Anglican Communion. He is a leader of a renegade branch of the communion. This makes it especially odd since the royal family depends most of all on loyalty.
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You dissemble: I did not suggest that anyone insisted on anything, or that anyone refused to consider anything. You had said you could not understand why Bishop Curry had been suggested as an appropriate priest to give the address, and I gave some reasons why he might have been considered a particularly appropriate choice. He was a particularly appropriate choice.
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All choices are insisting upon one particular thing and refusing everything else. The particularly appropriate reason you offered was race. You suggested he was qualified due to his race and others were less qualified due to their race. That may be the reason but if so it is a terrible one.
 
I don’t follow the royal family closely. Regardless it is remarkable.
 
No, it most certainly isn’t and never has been. Though I would find such an act encouraging, were it to occur.
 
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