Episcopal Presiding Bishop Michael Curry to preach at Henry and Meghan's Wedding

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Primate of Episcopal Church to Preach at royal wedding


I don’t know of you are familiar with the Primate of the Episcopal Church, but he is one amazing Bishop. He is our first Black Primate, and in the pulpit, he sets your soul on fire. He is going to wake up a whole lot of royal Anglicans next Saturday.


I can’t wait to see the Queen’s reaction when Michael Curry gets into that pulpit!
 
The Archbishop of Camterbury has welcomed him to do the sermon. I expect the reaction of many will be something to see.
 
In as much as the Queen is the Supreme Governor this would seem some level of tacit approval of the Episcopal Church which has fully sanctioned same sex ‘marriage’. While the more orthodox Anglicans are fleeing from the Episcopal church the royal family has now given it some measure of approval. The man may be a good preacher but he isn’t preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
exnihilo said:
In as much as the Queen is the Supreme Governor this would seem some level of tacit approval of the Episcopal Church which has fully sanctioned same sex ‘marriage’. While the more orthodox Anglicans are fleeing from the Episcopal church the royal family has now given it some measure of approval. The man may be a good preacher but he isn’t preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Of course the Primate is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Have you listened to his sermons? He is one of the most Christ-centered people I know - in his words and in his ministry.
 
He might be preaching part of it but it isn’t the whole. If he promotes homosexual acts, and he does, then he is promoting gross immorality. That isn’t the Gospel of Jesus.
 
exnihilo said:
He might be preaching part of it but it isn’t the whole. If he promotes homosexual acts, and he does, then he is promoting gross immorality. That isn’t the Gospel of Jesus.
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It is the Gospel of Jesus. You and your branch of the church may believe differently, but it is still Christ we all follow.
 
All who follow Jesus may be imperfect and fail to follow him as we should. But there has to be a point when we aren’t following Jesus. There has to be a point when we aren’t preaching the Gospel. If that point isn’t promoting gross immorality then there would be no such point, and that doesn’t make sense. I mean if he was preaching murder was good then hopefully we’d all agree that isn’t the Gospel of Jesus. Murder and homosexual acts are both grave sins.
 
For Roman Catholics, it is a grave sin. And no one is saying your branch of the church cannot divine what is a grave sin and what is not. Just as Judaism has its own discernment over following Torah. Keeping kashrut is the law. Do Christians keep kashrut? No, we chose to disregard that particular law. We follow what we understand God is asking us to do, even choosing one thing over another from the Christian Scriptures. I am blessed to be in a community that discerns God’s will through Scripture, tradition, and reason. We have changed many things in how we live our Fatih throughout the centuries, all in accordance with the Holy Spirit. It is how the faith learns and grows.
 
Right, but if I said one can be Christian and commit murder would you say that is true? Would I be right? I’ll venture a guess and say no. You’d say I was wrong. You’d say I was wrong universally. You wouldn’t say murder might be my way of following Jesus even if it wasn’t yours.

So we all agree there are some universal rules in Christianity. As to how we know those rules the only workable solution is an authoritative body. Just because multiple groups claim to be the one true body doesn’t mean there isn’t a one true body.

I just don’t see how one can reason that a church that promotes homosexual acts is the one true body. That is so at odds with the entire history of Christianity and natural law that I can’t see how that could be true. If it were then tomorrow the ‘true Christian church’ could say murder is good. Actually many groups do concerning abortion and euthanasia.
 
exnihilo said:
He might be preaching part of it but it isn’t the whole. If he promotes homosexual acts, and he does, then he is promoting gross immorality. That isn’t the Gospel of Jesus
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Why is it always about the sex? Can’t you appreciate any of the other good things? Always so concerned about sex and homosexuals and homosexual sex.
 
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Why is it always about the sex? Can’t you appreciate any of the other good things? Always so concerned about sex and homosexuals and homosexual sex.
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I totally agree. Thank you QwertyGirl. There is much to celebrate in all of Christianity. This thread is about the celebration of a wedding that brings together two nations, two cultures, and two races within the British Royal family. Those of us who are Anglicans/Episcopalians in the US are surprised and delighted to learn that our Primate (or Archbishop/Presiding Bishop) will symbolize that joining.
 
It is remarkable and wonderful. I really think there are some people who are so pre-occupied with issues of human sexuality that they aren’t able to appreciate much about their faith. It is a shame.
 
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Why is it always about the sex? Can’t you appreciate any of the other good things? Always so concerned about sex and homosexuals and homosexual sex.
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It’s simple: he preaches that a gravely disordered act- one that God expressly condemned in the Old Testament, is actually good (or at the least, morally neutral) in the eyes of God. This is a serious matter. He’s preaching in error, and there’s nothing wrong with calling him on it.
 
QwertyGirl said:
Why is it always about the sex? Can’t you appreciate any of the other good things? Always so concerned about sex and homosexuals and homosexual sex.
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Ironic that the above question comes on May 13, the anniversary of the Fatima apparitions.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but did not Mary state in one of the Fatima apparitions that more souls would go to hell due to “sins of the flesh” than any other type of sin?
 
For me, the mere fact that he’s Episcopalian and not Catholic is enough for me to see him as preaching in error.

Yes, I know, how arrogant of me. I’m just not a relativist. For what it’s worth, I used to be Episcopalian myself.
 
Do the math and see what percentage of time God and /or Jesus spent discussing homosexuality (or sex at all) in the bible. It is a fraction of the time he spent on the other important issues.

It is a shame to skew one’s religious views towards this one issue to the point of inability to fixate on anything else. A real shame. Quite frankly, I get tired of threads being hijacked by those who apparently have tunnel vision with regards to the sex issue.
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but did not Mary state in one of the Fatima apparitions that more souls would go to hell due to “sins of the flesh” than any other type of sin?
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That is what was reported. You can believe what you wish.
 
Norseman82 said:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but did not Mary state in one of the Fatima apparitions that more souls would go to hell due to “sins of the flesh” than any other type of sin?
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I am a practicing Anglican, so Fatima is something that holds little interest for me, but perhaps the topic of ‘sins of the flesh’ is directed at the plank in the eye of the Roman Church and not so much of others. I don’t know, but logic would say that the words would be directed to Catholic believers.
 
QwertyGirl said:
Do the math and see what percentage of time God and /or Jesus spent discussing homosexuality (or sex at all) in the bible. It is a fraction of the time he spent on the other important issues.

It is a shame to skew one’s religious views towards this one issue to the point of inability to fixate on anything else. A real shame. Quite frankly, I get tired of threads being hijacked by those who apparently have tunnel vision with regards to the sex issue.
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There’s no math to do. God doesn’t have to say something a magical number of times for it to be true or binding. I could just as easily say that, since God spends “so little” time on the issue, the times He condemned it and the zero times He approved of it mean it’s still wrong.
 
Suit yourself. I guess you are a-OK with fixation on all things you perceive as sexual (as in wrong), rather than celebrating the good things.

Only so many hours in the day. If that is how one chooses to spend them, then so be it.
 
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