Episcopal priests propose aligning Fort Worth diocese with Catholic church

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By TERRY LEE GOODRICH
tgoodrich@star-telegram.com

Four priests in the Fort Worth Episcopal Diocese are asking the Fort Worth Catholic Diocese’s help in aligning with the Catholic church, which they say is compatible with their positions opposing same-sex unions and ordination of women and gay priests.

The priests spoke privately with Bishop Kevin Vann of the Fort Worth Catholic Diocese in June. They made their proposal as the conservative Fort Worth Episcopal Diocese nears a decision in November on whether to split with the more liberal national Episcopal church, said Fort Worth Episcopal officials.

The Episcopal church is the United States province of the more conservative global Anglican Communion.

An Episcopal umbrella group that opposes the split from the national church said they learned of the talks this week from a confidential source. They said the discussions are a secretive attempt to move the Episcopal diocese into Catholicism.

The priests’ proposal asserts that a majority of 60 active clergy in the Fort Worth Episcopal Diocese are interested in aligning withCatholic church but that “it will take time to bring the laity on board with this proposal.” …Read More

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Wow!!

Time to storm heaven. I have relatives this would bring back.

:gopray2:
 
Is “alignment” simply rhetoric for ‘conversion to Catholicism’ or is there some technical difference?
 
How ironic that the blogger has been a consistent advocate of
women’s reproductive freedom (read pro-abortion) and has spent
25 years writing about efforts to combat family violence. No wonder she is so upset about those priests…
 
The Fort Worth Episcopal Diocese is very conservative and has a long history of dissent with the national body.

There is already one church in the DFW area that split from the Episcopal Church some years ago. St. Mary the Virgin in Arlington, TX They are now part of the Ft. Worth Catholic Diocese and operate under “Anglican Rule” for their liturgy.

There have also been a handful of Episcopal priests in the Ft. Worth area that have converted and are now Catholic priests.

The current Episcopal Bishop of Fort Worth, Jack Iker had been in talks with Catholic Bishop Jospeh Delaney several years back about converting when the national body was ordaining women bishops.
Last november there was a somewhat contentious exchange of letters between Bishop Iker and the head US Espicopal Bishop:
fwepiscopal.org/bishop/bishoppbreply.html

It would not surprise me in the least if the Ft. Worth Espicopal Diocese left the US Episcopal Church in the near future.

Here’s a link to the Dallas Morning News Religion Blog with more info about the meeting the Episcopal Priests had with Bishop Kevin Vann:

religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/fort-worth-episcopal-diocese-n.html
 
Chellow said:
Star Telegram

By TERRY LEE GOODRICH
tgoodrich@star-telegram.com

Four priests in the Fort Worth Episcopal Diocese are asking the Fort Worth Catholic Diocese’s help in aligning with the Catholic church, which they say is compatible with their positions opposing same-sex unions and ordination of women and gay priests.

The priests spoke privately with Bishop Kevin Vann of the Fort Worth Catholic Diocese in June. They made their proposal as the conservative Fort Worth Episcopal Diocese nears a decision in November on whether to split with the more liberal national Episcopal church, said Fort Worth Episcopal officials.

The Episcopal church is the United States province of the more conservative global Anglican Communion.

An Episcopal umbrella group that opposes the split from the national church said they learned of the talks this week from a confidential source. They said the discussions are a secretive attempt to move the Episcopal diocese into Catholicism.

The priests’ proposal asserts that a majority of 60 active clergy in the Fort Worth Episcopal Diocese are interested in aligning withCatholic church but that “it will take time to bring the laity on board with this proposal.” …Read More

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Judging from thje posts and the retraction the rank and file in the diocese want nothing to do with Rome.

Again, an overblown rumor. The Lambeth conference is over and look waht happened - that English bishop implying he’d go over to Rome has been very quiet. Read between the lines.
 
Rien,
Such endeavors do not have a short timetable. Much of what is
being done is being done behind the scenes. Here we had an
Episcopal priest who “came home to Rome” and as a Priest. He
was assigned to a parish in the Midwest and several of the parishoners who followed him to the Catholic Church did so quietly
in order not to confuse those who remained. Obviously, not every
parishioner followed him and a few of those were bitter and angry and vocal about it.
Now, when the entire parish “comes home”, there is a lot of
logistics that have to take place. Buying out the buildings, etc
from the Episcopal Diocese is but one of the events that must
take place as an example.
There are very serious consequences for many clergy who convert
to the Catholic Church. On the “Coming Home Network International” (chnetwork.org) you can read many testamonials
and see many of the problems they have to hurdle. (The network
website recently underwent a restructuring and is not completed, but there are some stories under the Library section)
 
It seems to me as if their bishop had taken a position of plausible deniability of what ever the result may have been. There are only a few Anglo- Catholics left in the United States and they are searching for a community to fellowship with that has common faith. The position of the bishop is due the anti-Catholic atmosphere in the United States, he may be afraid to make a move to us. I’m afraid that they have cornered themselves to GAFCON which is evangelical and anti-Catholic… see links below…

fwepiscopal.org/news/statement081208.html

fwepiscopal.org/bishop/sf071108.html
 
very interesting story

a few years ago spent a few terms at MACC learning pastoral Spanish with a group of seminarians–half Catholic from around the country, the rest Episcopal, some from Texas, some from Tennessee. The range among the latter from liberal to conservative (for lack of a better term) was amazing, and seemed to depend on which seminary and diocese they came from. There were several women candidates among the group. The Ft.Worth bishop was actually participating but held aloof from anything approaching controversey. I will follow developments with interest.
 
rien said:
Judging from thje posts and the retraction the rank and file in the diocese want nothing to do with Rome.

Again, an overblown rumor. The Lambeth conference is over and look waht happened - that English bishop implying he’d go over to Rome has been very quiet. Read between the lines.
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Because in your experience these conversions happen overnight and everything yet to be done will already have been done in the course of just a dozen weeks or so?
 
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