Episcopalian (Orthodox Anglican) Wants to Know

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The other day I noted that a writer on this forum stated that there were (I forget the exact number) 22 or maybe 25 Catholic Rites. As I understood it some of these are National Catholic Churchs such as the Polish Catholic Church which is somehow different from the Roman Catholic Church. When I joined the Episcopal Church as freshman in college a few years ago . . . OK I confess it was a few more than a few years ago the Priest I studied under Fr. Sheffler taught that our Mother Church the Church of England’s mother church is the Church of Rome and as such we Anglicans are Anglican Catholics as differentiated from Roman Catholics very much like the differentiation between Roman Catholics and Polish Catholics.

I am a scoutmaster for a troop sponsored by my parish, St. Andrews. One of my jobs in the troop is to help motivate our scouts to work towards their denominational awards. I have a fair number of Roman Catholic boys in the troop, actually its about 1/3 of them. At present we have no Episcopal boys in the troop by the way. We have one Marinite (I think I spelled that correctly) and one Calidonian Catholic as well as several jewish scouts and several moslem scouts. We have an assortment of Protestants as well. Each denomination has its own medal. The Episcopal medal is a white crusders shield with a red cross of St. George and in the upper left hand corner is a blue field with a white cross of St. Andrew. By the way the adult religous medal for both Roman Catholic and Episcopal scouters is the St. George medal. The difference is the ribbon it is suspended upon. The Roman Catholic scouters receive a Papal Yellow ribbon and the Episcopal (Anglicans) medal is suspended on a St Thomas A’ Becket Red ribbon. Back to my question are the Anglican (Catholic) rites considered to be part of the overall Catholic Rites albeit not in full communion with Roman Catholicism?
 
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Zoomie:
The other day I noted that a writer on this forum stated that there were (I forget the exact number) 22 or maybe 25 Catholic Rites. As I understood it some of these are National Catholic Churchs such as the Polish Catholic Church which is somehow different from the Roman Catholic Church. When I joined the Episcopal Church as freshman in college a few years ago . . . OK I confess it was a few more than a few years ago the Priest I studied under Fr. Sheffler taught that our Mother Church the Church of England’s mother church is the Church of Rome and as such we Anglicans are Anglican Catholics as differentiated from Roman Catholics very much like the differentiation between Roman Catholics and Polish Catholics.

I am a scoutmaster for a troop sponsored by my parish, St. Andrews. One of my jobs in the troop is to help motivate our scouts to work towards their denominational awards. I have a fair number of Roman Catholic boys in the troop, actually its about 1/3 of them. At present we have no Episcopal boys in the troop by the way. We have one Marinite (I think I spelled that correctly) and one Calidonian Catholic as well as several jewish scouts and several moslem scouts. We have an assortment of Protestants as well. Each denomination has its own medal. The Episcopal medal is a white crusders shield with a red cross of St. George and in the upper left hand corner is a blue field with a white cross of St. Andrew. By the way the adult religous medal for both Roman Catholic and Episcopal scouters is the St. George medal. The difference is the ribbon it is suspended upon. The Roman Catholic scouters receive a Papal Yellow ribbon and the Episcopal (Anglicans) medal is suspended on a St Thomas A’ Becket Red ribbon. Back to my question are the Anglican (Catholic) rites considered to be part of the overall Catholic Rites albeit not in full communion with Roman Catholicism?
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I don’t think such a Rite exists, and if it does, I’ve never heard of it. If you want to see if you’re in full communion with Rome, ask your Priest their beliefs in the Real Presence, the Primacy of St. Peter, perhaps some of the various Marian apparitions, and any other beliefs pecular to the Catholic Church. That being said, I don’t think you’re in communion with Rome.
 
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The other day I noted that a writer on this forum stated that there were (I forget the exact number) 22 or maybe 25 Catholic Rites. As I understood it some of these are National Catholic Churchs such as the Polish Catholic Church which is somehow different from the Roman Catholic Church. When I joined the Episcopal Church as freshman in college a few years ago . . . OK I confess it was a few more than a few years ago the Priest I studied under Fr. Sheffler taught that our Mother Church the Church of England’s mother church is the Church of Rome and as such we Anglicans are Anglican Catholics as differentiated from Roman Catholics very much like the differentiation between Roman Catholics and Polish Catholics.

I am a scoutmaster for a troop sponsored by my parish, St. Andrews. One of my jobs in the troop is to help motivate our scouts to work towards their denominational awards. I have a fair number of Roman Catholic boys in the troop, actually its about 1/3 of them. At present we have no Episcopal boys in the troop by the way. We have one Marinite (I think I spelled that correctly) and one Calidonian Catholic as well as several jewish scouts and several moslem scouts. We have an assortment of Protestants as well. Each denomination has its own medal. The Episcopal medal is a white crusders shield with a red cross of St. George and in the upper left hand corner is a blue field with a white cross of St. Andrew. By the way the adult religous medal for both Roman Catholic and Episcopal scouters is the St. George medal. The difference is the ribbon it is suspended upon. The Roman Catholic scouters receive a Papal Yellow ribbon and the Episcopal (Anglicans) medal is suspended on a St Thomas A’ Becket Red ribbon. Back to my question are the Anglican (Catholic) rites considered to be part of the overall Catholic Rites albeit not in full communion with Roman Catholicism?
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Anglicans are not considered Catholics because of a number of issues. #1 issue is King Henry separated from Rome so he could get a divorce from his wife. #2 is the protestant influence that crept into the Anglican Communion after the ‘reformation’. #3. Openly homosexual bishops, priests, etc. #4 support of contraception, birth control abortion, etc. #5 support of homosexual ‘marriages’. #6 it is very unlikely that they have valid Holy Orders anymore, because of a number of issues and thus don’t have a valid Eucharist. #7 female ‘priestesses’. Yes, there are around 23 or 24 different Catholic rites which are in communion with Rome. There is Anglican Use, which isn’t exactly a rite, but happens when a whole congregation and pastor want to come back into communion with Rome. I think you mean Maronite Catholic and Chaldean Catholic. Both of these sui ierus jurisdictions are in communion with Rome. They also have Eastern Orthodox counterparts.
 
First of all, welcome to the forum, Zoomie! I’m afraid your Anglican priest is wrong. 😦 There is no Anglican Rite that does not recognize the pope as its head. There is an Anglican Use Rite developed under John Paul II that is for Catholic parishes that used to be Anglican but which have come into full communion with the pope and the Catholic Church. Yours is not that Anglican Use Rite. But, if your parish wanted that status, your priest and parish leaders could talk to your local Catholic bishop to see what could be done about it.

I rather think it would mean that your priest would first have to be ordained as a Catholic priest (if he is married there is a dispensation for him if he and the bishop want to apply for it). Then the members of your parish would have to be confirmed by the Catholic bishop, as I understand it, but your priest and parish leaders would have to find out about it from your local Catholic diocese. I will add you and your parish to my prayers.
 
Hey Zoom,
You have gotten some good info from the others here on the forum. But let me give you some links so you can get someadditional info. But as a start, just know that for their own reassons, many Anglicans like to say they are Catholic but just don’t recognize the papal authority. Well, they are kidding themselves and whoever listens to them. Being Catholic includes recognizing and agreeing to with total agreement and no argument, full papal authority. There are reasons for that. The primary one is that Jesus Himself started the Church, gave Peter the keys to His Church and his successors and the teachings of the Church and it’s Traditions have come down to us today from that first day. The Anglican Church used to be a part of the Catholic Church but when they left they left all their Catholicity behind.

Look at New Advent website for info on the Anglican split and the Bull of Pope Leo XIII in 1869 in regard to the problem of Holy Orders in the Anglican communion.as well as other good information.

Anglican Orders(good info)
Background on Apostolae Curae
Apostoae Curae(English Translatioon of)

Then go to Crisis magazine for a recent article on the various other Rites that are in line with Rome and accept the Pope’s authority.

The Other Catholics-A short Guide to the Eastern Catholic Churches

God bless you and hope this helps. You are in all of our prayers.
 
You may also be thinking of the Anglican Use which is for those Anglican pastors which convert (w/congregation) so that they are in communion with us, but can keep their worshipliturgical style. There are only a handful of them right now, but you may have heard of it.
 
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