BTW its not about changing his views you would have to change the bible and Gods view. I hope he personally is ok with you now…not sure why he wouldn’t be but really how do you affirm sin? Love the sinner not the sin.
Sure we do. Martin Luther stumbled upon it 490 years ago.
If one has faith in CC interpretation including the Church’s interpretation of ECFS, then I guess it is understandable.
OuchSure we do. Martin Luther stumbled upon it 490 years ago.
No I can’t unless I approach the altar to receive when I’m told I can’t or I go to confession to a priest and then not do anything considered “mortally bad” by the CC inbetween then and the Mass I attend.
You mean mortally bad by God right? The CC doesn’t teach stuff it just pulled out of the air!
Yea that’s clear with the infinite fracturing from the moment he established in and the endless reformations that continue to take place. really clear. Crystal evenSure we do. Martin Luther stumbled upon it 490 years ago.
I can’t speak for all but I’m not sure all who are outside communion with Rome reject all tradition and are solely Bible alone. TEC speaks of tradition if I’m not mistaken.
I see where you are coming from BTW I don’t take the bible literally when I’m not reading literal accounts. Some most certainly are literal things however. If you notice I said in part. There are plenty of other verses that condemn the action as I’m sure you know.
So here’s an interesting question for you. Do you believe the Mormons understanding of the bible and how its interpreted are correct? If not why?
I mean mortally bad as the CC and the Catholic faithful believe and understand things to be so by God.
You mean everything that comes from the bible that can be traced back to Christ himself all through out history kind of CC understanding?
No I never said my understanding is better or worse. I’m human with a finite mind so I’m open to mine still evolving. And I imagine it might do so until in faith Christ comes again. I have to go now and do some other things. I have some dinner to get and a baseball game to watch.
But per your other questions, I don’t subscribe to LDS interpretation because I don’t share the LDS faith. And yes traced back by the CC whose interpretation of history you have faith in. PeaceOOH I see what your doing you saying that people all interpret the bible differently and that the Catholic understanding isn’t the only understanding!
God Bless enjoy your day!No I never said my understanding is better or worse. I’m human with a finite mind so I’m open to mine still evolving. And I imagine it might do so until in faith Christ comes again. I have to go now and do some other things. I have some dinner to get and a baseball game to watch.
There are a number of prolife rectors in the TEC, though I suspect they are shrinking. Years ago people would say it is better to “bloom where you are planted”, to stay put and have a prolife influence wherever you are. The problem is that she is indirectly supporting the prochoice TEC and probably a pro choice diocese. She is attracting young people to a congregation which might, at the moment, be prolife, but will likely be prochoice after she leaves. But the young people she attracted will still be there.
You sure do give Luther *a lot of credit for a movement that involved millions. Luther wasn’t even the first Reformer. I believe that honor goes to Peter Waldo ( or maybe Jan Hus). Luther simply gave a coherent form to a movement of the Spirit that had been going on for centuries before. The Book of Concord names plenty of Catholic Church abuses that were corrected in Evangelical circles and named certain things, such as enforced priestly celibacy and the cult of the saints as recent innovations. Mingling the Law and the Gospel, simony, using the profit garnered from indulgences to build the Basilica of St. Peter, mingling politics and faith ( two realms that should be forever separate) and utilizing the state to sanction executions because of religious differences is hardly indicative of a Church bent on doing the Will of God. Shall I mention the Borgias and the Medicis, who were more bent on pursuing personal and familial ambitions than doing the Will of God? Martin Luther might have said execrable things against the Jews and he did encourage their expulsion and/ or slaughter, but no more than the Catholic Church did at the time. I’ve mentioned earlier that one Catholic diocese can seem entirely different from another in terms of liberalism. Saying that they have the CCC in common is no more or less valid than the Episcopalians who all agree officially to the usage and doctrine of the Book of Common Prayer. Putting the Bible into the language of the people, making Scripture the measuring rod with which to apply tradition and attributing faith to God, where it belongs, rather than spouting crypto- semi Pelagianism, can only be of God. The other Reformers did what they did and the invisible Church still agrees to the basics: the Truth of the Ecumenical Councils before Trent, the Holy Trinity, the Resurrection of the Dead and the redemption won for us by Jesus Christ. If the only thing you can harp on Protestants is our separation in theology and organization, then you’ve got a pretty thin argument. We agree on the centrality of the Bible, it’s importance in our various theologies and the necessity of praying to God the Father through Jesus alone. Although the differences in what we believe happens in the Sacraments are significant and serious enough to keep us in our respective church bodies, we acknowledge each other to be part of the same Christian neighborhood. We acknowledge the Orthodox and Catholics as part of the Church Christ founded, but we don’t have the hubris to say we’re the only Church that Christ founded. There are Protestants who actually glory *in the variety of our churches and the many ways we present Jesus Christ and the love of God to the world.
Would your congregation, or pastor, or district support change - to support legal protection for the unborn - in other words, legal restriction on abortion?
The picture that some people paint of supposedly “liberal” denominations are often overly simplistic. I’m gay and quite liberal but the Lutheran congregation of which my partner and I are members (ELCA) has some fairly conservative members in it (who undoubtedly consider me and my partner to be big sinners) and we also have a very traditional service with a traditional liturgy (as opposed to some ELCA congregations which have a so-called “contemporary” service). But the liberals and conservatives in my congregation somehow manage to get along with each other and treat each other with respect.