equal but different?

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what does this really mean?

i hear this thrown around a lot when it comes to discussing males and females. but how does it really apply?

does it mean we’re not supposed to have the same jobs/activities. or it more about how we approach those things, that we may do it in different ways?

sorry for my confusion on the subject
 
We are equal in rights and human dignity. We are different biologically.
 
We are equal as sons and daughters of God, but we also unique. We believe that God created us male and female for a reason, and that our gender gives us a unique perspective on approaching situations and unique gifts to help us and others through life. A man cannot know what it means to be a mother, and a woman cannot know what it means to be a father for instance.
 
1 Corinthians 12:12-26 discusses how the body of Christ is made up of many very different parts. No one part is better than the others. The body needs all of its parts and each part is most useful with the rest of the body. Just because two people have different roles to play doesn’t mean that they have different values in Christ.
 
does it mean we’re not supposed to have the same jobs/activities. or it more about how we approach those things, that we may do it in different ways?
Men and women are of equal dignity, just because men cannot bring forth new Life does not diminish their dignity.
 
well, I mean different than biologically.

no one has really answered my example about different jobs/hobbies. this has been used to not let girls play sports for example, in some places in the past because it’s a male thing supposedly. or not let them have certain careers.
 
well, I mean different than biologically.

no one has really answered my example about different jobs/hobbies. this has been used to not let girls play sports for example, in some places in the past because it’s a male thing supposedly. or not let them have certain careers.
At one time womanhood was exalted way over what it really is into a cult of feminine that required women to fulfill certain roles and not do certain things. I was brought up in this mentality when I was a girl, so I experienced it. I was expected to marry and have children or have a job, but not a real career because I’d never stick to it once I was needed at home. This idea was mere convention of the times. I was never encouraged to go out for any sports. Of course, I wasn’t physically adept at sports, anyway, but girls sports were limited to gymnastics and cheerleading, neither of which I could do.

Children are pretty much physically equal until puberty sets in, when the bodily differences between the sexes become pronounced. Biological differences make men and women playing some sports together dicey. Men’s body strength is in their shoulders and women in their hips, besides men are generally stronger than women. Most women wouldn’t be able to compete against men in footfall, for example. Even tennis shows up the differences quite strongly.

With the rush to make women men’s equals, as it was thought needed to be done in the 60’s (as if the male model is the superior one–an insult to us females IMHO), the “womanly” arts were downplayed. Any woman who didn’t want to compete in a “man’s world” was considered backwards, stupid, a slave, or lazy–as if caring for a household, children, and a husband made women any of those things. :rolleyes:

Any woman who wants to work in the world and have a career can do so, and that’s fine, of course. I’d hope she would want to hold on to her legitimate feminity even so. There’s no good reason why a woman can’t be a woman in nearly any profession she may choose. Having said that, there are many women who feel they have to work outside the home just to have more things or to ensure the furture of their children. There are those who need to work outside the home, of course. But the fact is a good many women in the workplace could quit their jobs with no real financial harm to their families, and indeed might find it less expensive than paying for daycare, clothes for work, commuting, eating out, etc. that comes with working outside the home.

The upshot is, as I see it, that alll factors, as well as a woman’s talents/desires should be taken into consideration. And in some cases it might be best for the husband to be the stay-at-home parent. All reasonable options ought to be on the table and open for consideration, as I see it. 🙂
 
well, I mean different than biologically.

no one has really answered my example about different jobs/hobbies. this has been used to not let girls play sports for example, in some places in the past because it’s a male thing supposedly. or not let them have certain careers.
They mandated that girls be allowed to play American football at the local high school, the idea of a girls football team was rejected as unequal. They haven’t won a single game in the 4 years since it was implemented. Then they sued when one of the girls was paralyzed from the neck down playing in an away game.
Seems like that would have been a foreseeable risk for any rational person.

Sometimes people insist on getting their way without thinking through the probable consequences. The school district fought over this for many years and just put off the inevitable. I say, why resist, give them whatever they want, the situation will correct itself soon enough through natural consequences.
 
They mandated that girls be allowed to play American football at the local high school, the idea of a girls football team was rejected as unequal. They haven’t won a single game in the 4 years since it was implemented. Then they sued when one of the girls was paralyzed from the neck down playing in an away game.
Seems like that would have been a foreseeable risk for any rational person.

Sometimes people insist on getting their way without thinking through the probable consequences. The school district fought over this for many years and just put off the inevitable. I say, why resist, give them whatever they want, the situation will correct itself soon enough through natural consequences.
I don’t really get what you mean. are you saying it’s wrong for women to have jobs traditionally designated for men?

I love studying science, in past times, I probably wouldn’t be allowed to do that because I’m a girl.

I’m looking for catholic teaching
 
I’m looking for catholic teaching
Ask, and ye shalt receive. From the Catechism:
II. EQUALITY AND DIFFERENCES AMONG MEN
1934 Created in the image of the one God and equally endowed with rational souls, all men have the same nature and the same origin. Redeemed by the sacrifice of Christ, all are called to participate in the same divine beatitude: all therefore enjoy an equal dignity.
1935 The equality of men rests essentially on their dignity as persons and the rights that flow from it:
Every form of social or cultural discrimination in fundamental personal rights on the grounds of sex, race, color, social conditions, language, or religion must be curbed and eradicated as incompatible with God’s design. 40
1936 On coming into the world, man is not equipped with everything he needs for developing his bodily and spiritual life. He needs others. Differences appear tied to age, physical abilities, intellectual or moral aptitudes, the benefits derived from social commerce, and the distribution of wealth.41 The “talents” are not distributed equally.42

1937 These differences belong to God’s plan, who wills that each receive what he needs from others, and that those endowed with particular “talents” share the benefits with those who need them. These differences encourage and often oblige persons to practice generosity, kindness, and sharing of goods; they foster the mutual enrichment of cultures:
I distribute the virtues quite diversely; I do not give all of them to each person, but some to one, some to others. . . . I shall give principally charity to one; justice to another; humility to this one, a living faith to that one. . . . And so I have given many gifts and graces, both spiritual and temporal, with such diversity that I have not given everything to one single person, so that you may be constrained to practice charity towards one another. . . . I have willed that one should need another and that all should be my ministers in distributing the graces and gifts they have received from me. 43
1938 There exist also sinful inequalities that affect millions of men and women. These are in open contradiction of the Gospel:
Their equal dignity as persons demands that we strive for fairer and more humane conditions. Excessive economic and social disparity between individuals and peoples of the one human race is a source of scandal and militates against social justice, equity, human dignity, as well as social and international peace. 44
40 GS 29 § 2.
41 Cf. GS 29 § 2.
42 Cf. Mt 25:14-30; Lk 19:27.
43 St. Catherine of Siena, Dial. I,7.
44 CS 29 § 3.

Obviously vocations which require a lot of physical strength, especially upper body strength, will be dominated by men because men are, on average, physically stronger. But the Church insists that you ought to be able to study science.
 
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