Actually, as you can see from your own quote above, you referred to me as a “factory farm mink rancher” although I told you I grew up on a fur farm and I haven’t worked on one in many years. So, once again, Marfran, follow your own advice and do not refer personally to me and I will refrain from doing the same to you.
Petroleum as a resource is limited. We are already looking at and usig alternatives. I believe it is the byproducts that are used. Plastic also uses that.
Of course there are alternatives; the stuff things were made of before plastic. Metal, wood, cellulose, glass. But it’s precisely because petroleum is plentiful and cheap that so many things are made of plastic. I have a friend who is a very successful “recycler” who makes biodiesel and all kinds of things. The way he puts it is “I don’t care what you do. You can’t make anything as cheaply as something you can pump right out of the ground.”
Reading through this thread you will find many that cite fur as the best material for keeping warm in extreme climates.
‘Managed to get by’ implies a struggle.
Perhaps you should read through this thread again. It has been explained many times that fur is better at keeping people warm in extreme climates.
Economics.
I did not!!! Is your name attached??? I have not used YOUR name, and pointed to you in a personal way. You make personal references in all of your posts and ask posters personal questions. Again, stick to the topic. Please show us some evidence that the industry is*** not ***cruel.
Well we can clear this up real quick…
A few have said real fur is warmer, others have said that it is not necessarily so, including JaneGrey who lives in a cold climate.
And who wears a mink coat specifically for keeping warm in extreme climates? Makers of these coats design them for FASHION.
Quality
Who said anything about money?
Sure looks like you did to me.
You implied that. Who else could you have been referring to? You said something like, “Dude, we have a factory mink farmer HERE trying to convince…” Who else could it be?
You have been shown plenty of (first hand) evidence -if you don’t believe me just look back… You just dismiss it as being not true.
So you wish to limit the discussion of fur to only mink coats?
I must agree for the most part BUT I think that fur is excellent for keeping warm too. (not just coats)
They are not marketed for warmth, they are marketed for fashion, and they are designed for fashion, not warmth–or they would be designed differently (like zipping all the way up the neck, re-inforced cuffs that cling to the body, etc.)
Just spotted this thread and would like to respond. given so much has transpired I am sorry if things get repeated. OK.
Those qualities were suggested. The first three could just as much apply to faux fur. Faux fur may take longer to biodegrade. Anyway there are other options (not real fur).
I am agreeing with you that *most *coats are for fashion, but there are some fur products that are very good for keeping warm. (like the rabbit hat I used to have -nothing was warmer than that one!)
Good, now we have another catholic person who has first hand experience with fur farms.
