Euacharist for all?

[ProVobis]

Yes, the Holy Eucharist is THE CENTRAL and most solemn part of the Mass, and that includes the core belief as to Its nature.

Yet, receiving it is not one of the four functions of the Mass, which are adoration, contrition, thanksgiving, and supplication.

Interesting, no?

 

[Brendan_64]

We don’t need to receive the Eucharist in order to adore the Eucharist.

 

[Sy_Noe]

My apologies. I did NOT mean to call you lukewarm. I meant that towards people who who are in a state of mortal sin but recieve anyway.
I feel like you do in some ways. There are some teachings of the church which I find very hard to accept. Which is why I dont recieve communion. But in my humble opinion maybe it would be a good thing if youd start going to church again. I realize im in no position to preach but you might find that youll get closer to God. Right now I have my beliefs but I am staying open to Gods direction which is why I still go to church. Even if we cant recieve him its probably a good thing to be in his presence at least once a week. But we are all on our own path. So I wish you good luck.

No problem. Wishing you well on your journey and where God directs you as well. Peace.

 

[AKDee]

As a new convert, I’ve wondered about this, as well. I understand what the rules about receiving Eucharist are. I don’t understand the why. In the Bible, I don’t see evidence that Jesus required his Disciples to be in a state of Grace prior to receiving Eucharist. There’s nothing in the Bible about the disciples going to confession and receiving absolution prior. He doesn’t seem to place any restrictions on partaking, simply “DO THIS in remembrance of Me.” I understand that I am just supposed to accept that the Church’s teaching is correct on this matter and I will not disobey the rules personally but I do wonder.

 

[jmcrae]

As a new convert, I’ve wondered about this, as well. I understand what the rules about receiving Eucharist are. I don’t understand the why. In the Bible, I don’t see evidence that Jesus required his Disciples to be in a state of Grace prior to receiving Eucharist. There’s nothing in the Bible about the disciples going to confession and receiving absolution prior. He doesn’t seem to place any restrictions on partaking, simply “DO THIS in remembrance of Me.” I understand that I am just supposed to accept that the Church’s teaching is correct on this matter and I will not disobey the rules personally but I do wonder.

Jesus gave to the Church the authority to make these kinds of decisions (to the Pope He said, What you bind (require) on earth I will bind in Heaven; what you loose (make a free choice) on earth I will loose in Heaven.)

This means, if the Church teaching is thus and so, then believe it and do it, because Jesus ratifies it - you can never say, Jesus disagrees with the Church’s teachings on [pet issue of the day] because He has already made it clear that He supports His Church, no matter what. There is always a good reason, but it isn’t necessary from God’s point of view that there be one, and nor do you need to wait until you understand the reasoning before giving your obedience.

 

[Vico]

As a new convert, I’ve wondered about this, as well. I understand what the rules about receiving Eucharist are. I don’t understand the why. In the Bible, I don’t see evidence that Jesus required his Disciples to be in a state of Grace prior to receiving Eucharist. There’s nothing in the Bible about the disciples going to confession and receiving absolution prior. He doesn’t seem to place any restrictions on partaking, simply “DO THIS in remembrance of Me.” I understand that I am just supposed to accept that the Church’s teaching is correct on this matter and I will not disobey the rules personally but I do wonder.

1 Corinthians 11:27-28 explains not to receive unworthily to avoid condemnation.

Gospel of John 13:10-11:
Jesus saith to him: He that is washed, needeth not but to wash his feet, but is clean wholly. And you are clean, but not all. For he knew who he was that would betray him; therefore he said: You are not all clean.
It is the Jewish practice to be clean when offering.The apostles followed Jewish practice.

• “confess that he has sinned in that thing, and he shall bring his trespass offering to the Lord for his sin which he has committed” – Leviticus 5:5
• “So the priest shall make atonement on his behalf for his sin which he has committed, and it shall be forgiven him” – Leviticus 5:10
• “When a man or woman commits any sin that men commit in unfaithfulness against the Lord, and that person is guilty, then he shall confess the sin which he has committed” – Numbers 5:6

1 Corinthians 5:6-9"Your glorying is not good. Know you not that a little leaven corrupteth the whole lump ? Purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new paste, as you are unleavened. For Christ our pasch is sacrificed. Therefore let us feast, not with the old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."
2 Corinthians 5:18:"All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation . . .”
**James 5: 14-17:
**"Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15 and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to one another …”

 

[AKDee]

Thank you to vico and jmcrae for the enlightening posts. I appreciate both of your responses.

 

[vsedriver]

As a new convert, I’ve wondered about this, as well. I understand what the rules about receiving Eucharist are. I don’t understand the why. In the Bible, I don’t see evidence that Jesus required his Disciples to be in a state of Grace prior to receiving Eucharist. There’s nothing in the Bible about the disciples going to confession and receiving absolution prior. He doesn’t seem to place any restrictions on partaking, simply “DO THIS in remembrance of Me.” I understand that I am just supposed to accept that the Church’s teaching is correct on this matter and I will not disobey the rules personally but I do wonder.

Receiving the Eucharist is also a public act stating that you believe all that the Church teaches. If you receive when you are not in unity with the Church then you are publicly lying and causing scandal to any who know you do not accept Church teaching or are in full unity with the Church.

I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I am not privy to people’s consciences. I don’t know who just went to confession after years of being away. I don’t know who is suffering and receives from desperation. I don’t know who is aware and who isn’t that the Eucharist is the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ. I only know the state of my own conscience. I also fully believe in the Church’s position on closed communion because the Church is only thinking of the individual’s welfare.