One can use the argument that anything that offends God is grave. Even so, isn’t this more subjective to the point that an entire society can be brainwashed into thinking nothing they do is grave? Look at how society already glamorizes divorce/remarriage among other things.
- It is a grave sin.
“there are many, most of which we all fall into at one time or another” Really?The church teaches that Catholics should attend confession at least once a year. If in mortal sin one should attend confession.
How many Catholics, possibly, think that once a year is ok? Even if they have committed mortal sin? Look at the list of mortal sins…there are many, most of which we all fall into at one time or another, maybe not even realising it.
felsguy;12011118 said:Not possible!
Hi, I would like to clarify or qualify what I said:One can use the argument that anything that offends God is grave. Even so, isn’t this more subjective to the point that an entire society can be brainwashed into thinking nothing they do is grave? Look at how society already glamorizes divorce/remarriage among other things.
One does not receive an increase of grace when receiving unworthily.If I have to be in a state of sanctifying grace to receive the Eucharist, and I still choose to receive it whilst in a state of mortal sin, does it mean that I have *not *been in communion with God?
Does my sin cancel out the act of communion? I’m thinking that perhaps the act of receiving Communion is in itself an act of atonement, if the receiver is genuinely penitent.
But what of the sinner who just goes up any-old-how and receives the host (as a matter of habit, perhaps) in a state of carelessness, or worse, fully intending to mock the institution of Communion? In these cases, it can hardly be regarded as a valid communion, any more than an insincere confession is held to be valid.
Any ideas or church teachings (surely there must be a teaching or ten on this topic).
You can only get forgiveness if you are really sorry.This is something I have never read before. (I’m not been confrontational here, and genuinely want to find out some more about this).
It might even be the stimulus for a separate thread.
I know God can do anything, but does He reserve the right to forgive someone at the time of death without confession? I imagine this refers to those who simply cannot get there in time; when the Priest turns up 5 minutes too late; perhaps for death-bed conversions.
This would *seem *to negate many teachings on judgement, heaven, purgatory and hell. After all, if God chooses to forgive some, then why not all?
Yes we are responsible for our actions, omissions, thoughts, etc.Technically you are right but I read a lot of rationalization from a lot of posts here. Someone is still responsible for our actions, omissions, thoughts, etc.
Ummmm…the chances of this actually happening are slim to none. Most who try this method of living don’t. While it is possible, it is highly improbable. But that is my opinion and I’m not God nor an expert on much of anything.A person at the time of death could make an act of perfect confession and be forgiven.
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Why do you say that? I certainly don’t want to be guilty of dissuading people from availing themselves of the sacrament of penance, but I don’t think that we can say that the chances of someone having perfect contrition are slim to none. Given that it is God’s will for all to be saved, I believe that God provides the grace for each of us to be perfectly contrite. Of course, not all choose to cooperate with that grace. Nevertheless, it seems unlikely to me that there is little to no chance that something for which God provides grace will actually occur.Hello Brendan.
Ummmm…the chances of this actually happening are slim to none. Most who try this method of living don’t. While it is possible, it is highly improbable. But that is my opinion and I’m not God nor an expert on much of anything.
Glenda
So a act of contrition, sincerely thought would be enough?Catechism:
1385 To respond to this invitation we must prepare ourselves for so great and so holy a moment. St. Paul urges us to examine our conscience: "Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself."218 Anyone conscious of a grave sin must receive the sacrament of Reconciliation before coming to communion
scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a3.htm#V
(grave sin= mortal sin).
My understanding is that this is usually only allowed in an emergency situation. Under normal circumstances, the person is required to abstain from Holy Communion until he/she can attend Confession.So a act of contrition, sincerely thought would be enough?
read the next line:So a act of contrition, sincerely thought would be enough?
Absolutely spot on. We also see the concept of primacy of conscience pushed to the limit, to the point where it is corrupted to mean that a Catholic is free to follow their conscience even if that results in actions that are condemned as sinful by our Church. An attitude of if it feels right, if you think it’s right, then it must be right (regardless of what the Church teaches). Each man then becomes his own magisterium, and ultimately each man becomes his own church. That road leads to Protestantism.One can use the argument that anything that offends God is grave. Even so, isn’t this more subjective to the point that an entire society can be brainwashed into thinking nothing they do is grave? Look at how society already glamorizes divorce/remarriage among other things.
No!So a act of contrition, sincerely thought would be enough?
Note there is “parvity of matter” (smallness of matter) for venial sin that fall under many of them…hence there are often venial lies, anger etc.I repeat, a grave sin is any that violates
the TEN COMMANDMENTS! Let that
be foremost on your minds when examin-
ing your conscience for confession!
I was reading into what St Paul said about examing ones own conscience.read the next line:
“Anyone conscious of a grave sin must receive the sacrament of Reconciliation before coming to communion”
One must take care here. The Church yes states if one is conscious of mortal sin…one is to go first to Confession. But I would not phrase things that way. For those who struggle with scrupulosity can be sent over the edge of their boat with such a thought.(they need a regular confessor and to follow his direction).If a person even thinks that they might not be in a state of grace, then that person thinks that they might have committed a grave sin. To receive Communion in that state is to commit another grave sin.