Eucharist before Convalidation or Sanation?

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Hi folks, I need your help with this. I am Catholic, my wife is Pentecostal. I am meeting my parish priest tomorrow to discuss Sanation, as we exchanged vows 9 years ago in a civil union. I have come back to the Church this year after 12 years away, my question is if I have been to confession, can I receive the Eucharist even though I am technically living in sin ? :confused:
 
only your own priest can answer this question, preferably in the context of confession. Only he knows all the circumstances. As a general answer, no one who is in an invalid marriage cannot by definition receive communion because he is not in full communion with the Church. but as I say only your priest knows you and all your circumstances.
 
Dpoc41 said:
Hi folks, I need your help with this. I am Catholic, my wife is Pentecostal. I am meeting my parish priest tomorrow to discuss Sanation, as we exchanged vows 9 years ago in a civil union. I have come back to the Church this year after 12 years away, my question is if I have been to confession, can I receive the Eucharist even though I am technically living in sin ? :confused:
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You will have to discuss this with your priest. You must cease living in sin as you come back into communion with the church. There are strict guidelines to follow with regards to this situation. One is not living a sinful lifestyle the other is not providing scandal to the church. You can’t receive communion at your parish if people already know that you are living in only a civil union or are likely to find out. That would be scandal. If it is acceptable to your priest if after you go to confession , stop practicing sin in other words either separate temporarily or live like brother and sister with your priests guidance ,you may then go to communion preferably at another parish until after the convalidation or sanation.

The quote below pertains to the situation of the divorced/remarried but also applies to anyone in civil marriages only or those cohabitating.
The faithful who persist in such a situation may receive Holy Communion only after obtaining sacramental absolution, which may be given only “to those who, repenting of having broken the sign of the Covenant and of fidelity to Christ, are sincerely ready to undertake a way of life that is no longer in contradiction to the indissolubility of marriage. This means, in practice, that when for serious reasons, for example, for the children’s upbringing, a man and a woman cannot satisfy the obligation to separate, they ‘take on themselves the duty to live in complete continence, that is, by abstinence from the acts proper to married couples’”(8). In such a case they may receive Holy Communion as long as they respect the obligation to avoid giving scandal.
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vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_14091994_rec-holy-comm-by-divorced_en.html

BTW , welcome back home. This part is a little tricky but the Holy Spirit will guide you through it.
 
Just as an aside - why not convalidation - is your spouse opposed to the Sacrament and this is the reason for Sanitation - if you don’t want to answer you don’t need to - just wondering.
 
Sorry if this side-tracks the thread a little. My question is prompted by the title of the thread. I think we would all agree that the church’s laws on marriage are complex. I am trying with the help of a copy of the Code of Canon Law and a commentary on the code to become more familiar with these laws. I note with interest that the Code uses neither the term convalidation nor sanation. Do these terms refer, respectively, to what the Code calls “validation” and “retrospective validation”?

Thanks

Matt:)
 
Matthew_Holford said:
Sorry if this side-tracks the thread a little. My question is prompted by the title of the thread. I think we would all agree that the church’s laws on marriage are complex. I am trying with the help of a copy of the Code of Canon Law and a commentary on the code to become more familiar with these laws. I note with interest that the Code uses neither the term convalidation nor sanation. Do these terms refer, respectively, to what the Code calls “validation” and “retrospective validation”?

Thanks

Matt:)
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I believe the translation by the CL Society of Great Britain and Ireland adopts those terms - the American translation renders “sanatione in radice” as “radical sanation” (c. 1161-65) and “convalidatione” as convalidation (1156-60). If you wish to compare, the CLSA translation is available at the Vatican website.
 
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I believe the translation by the CL Society of Great Britain and Ireland adopts those terms - the American translation renders “sanatione in radice” as “radical sanation” (c. 1161-65) and “convalidatione” as convalidation (1156-60). If you wish to compare, the CLSA translation is available at the Vatican website.
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As I am trying to get help here with a difficult topic I want to double check with you. When you used the imprecise plural pronoun “those” before “terms” can I confirm you are referring back to the words “validation” and “retrospective validation”.

My commentary uses the phrase sanatione in radice to explain retrospective validation, stating that it means to heal at the root. It was the use of the Latin word sanatione in their explanation that led me to conclude that what many posters on here call sanation is retrospective validation.

Do you know why the Holy See chose the CLSA English translation for its website?

Interestingly the Intratext version calls them, respectively, Simple Validation and Retrospective Validation.

Obviously, translators cannot agree on how to translate the Latin into English.
 
Matthew_Holford said:
As I am trying to get help here with a difficult topic I want to double check with you. When you used the imprecise plural pronoun “those” before “terms” can I confirm you are referring back to the words “validation” and “retrospective validation”.
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My commentary uses the phrase sanatione in radice to explain retrospective validation, stating that it means to heal at the root. It was the use of the Latin word sanatione in their explanation that led me to conclude that what many posters on here call sanation is retrospective validation.

Do you know why the Holy See chose the CLSA English translation for its website?

Not the foggiest. The translation seems to be somewhere in between - certain parts reflect older versions put out by the CLSA.
 
My understanding is usually radical sanitation is used when there was no impediment to the marriage (such as both of the spouses were open to life, no previous marriages, intent for permamence, etc.) but one spouse is not willing to convalidate such as an atheist or evangelical anti-Catholic Protestant. It is a way for the Catholic party to receive Sacraments including the marriage as there are no other impediments in place. This is the real life example I know of.

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