Eucharist received unworthily

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At least one of the gospels, which I don’t recall (John?), says satan entered Judas when he took the morsel from Jesus. Considering that the institution of the Eucharist is a mystery of the Rosay, do you think that happens to us when we receive Communion with a mortal sin on our soul, or like if we were intoxicated…or we’re thinking of our shopping list…or walking right out of church… Maybe it just opens the door for an attack we’re hopefully saved from or it’s like just another mortal sin? I’d be curious to hear some thoughts on it.
 
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In my opinion any mortal sin has the same effect. It is a rejection and betrayal of Jesus.
 
Your question makes me wonder. Might the opposite effect occur? Receiving communion in a state of serious sin - might it prompt one to confess and repent if one realized exactly what was occurring; Jesus coming directly to a sinner? After all, I don’t read anywhere in the gospels where Jesus Himself put conditions on receiving the Eucharist. (and yes, I know he gave the Apostles the power to speak and make "rules.)
 
I would also add that if it is done knowingly than it is committing the sin of sacrilege. As a general rule, I would consider this more serious of a sin than most other mortal sins.

Other sins, example: sexual sins of impurity, there is a natural drive that can lead to those sins out of weakness. There is not a natural drive that leads anyone knowingly into sacrilege and therefore to commit sacrilege is a worse degree of offense, in my opinion.
 
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At least one of the gospels, which I don’t recall (John?), says satan entered Judas when he took the morsel from Jesus. Considering that the institution of the Eucharist is a mystery of the Rosay, do you think that happens to us when we receive Communion with a mortal sin on our soul, or like if we were intoxicated…or we’re thinking of our shopping list…or walking right out of church… Maybe it just opens the door for an attack we’re hopefully saved from or it’s like just another mortal sin? I’d be curious to hear some thoughts on it.
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Just to clarify, are you asking this as if the “morsel” was the Eucharist?
 
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It’s a good question. One for a theologian

I wonder if we can tag. @CRM_Brother
 
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That’s the reason I asked. Only John actually states that Judas left and of course his Gospel does not contain a Eucharistic narrative. In Matthew the institution of the Eucharist immediately follows the exchange between Jesus and Judas about betrayal and Luke reverses this order but doesn’t mention Judas. I wasn’t sure whether or not the OP was viewing the Judas receiving the morsel as someone unworthily receiving the Eucharist.
 
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Opinion is pretty well divided as to whether Judas received the Eucharist and mostly likely the question will never be resolved in this world. I didn’t mean to hijack this thread but wanted to clarify where the OP’s question was coming from before responding to it.
 
Remembering that we receive true body and blood of Jesus, it is necessary that we receive him as a holy vessel to be worthy of the holiness of God. Mortal sin renders that vessel unworthy. Thus we have to prepare ourselves before communion with God in the Holy Eucharist. We do not necessary have to receive Holy Communion, participating in the mass would be sufficient. It is only when we are in a state of grace that we do.

I would see receiving Communion in a state of mortal sin as a sin of sacrilege.
 
I’m honored that you would think of me as a theologian. I am simply one trying to grow in my understanding of the Lord, but I will take a shot at it.

The dipping and handing of the morsel was before the institution of the Eucharist. This would have been before the formal liturgy of the Seder during which Christ instituted the Eucharist. The “dipping” of the morsel is most telling. It was common practice when guests came together for the host to distribute what we would consider hor d’oeurves to his guests. The fact that Christ washed the feet of his disciples and conducted the Seder as head of the household point to Christ as taking the position of host. One of the common foods to present was flatbread served with dipping sauces like humus (as seen earlier in the Bible when Boaz offered it to Ruth when he first met her) and olive oil mixed with hyssop. The torn piece of flatbread (morsel) would be dipped into the sauce and then eaten.
 
Thankyou @CRM_Brother. I had an inkling it would be something a little like that. In the Gospels earlier in Jesus Ministry there are 12 Apostles but one is a devil. John 6:70. So perhaps that demon, that devil, was not for Jesus to exorcise.
 
I actually didn’t know if it was the Eucharist or not, but one other member said it wasn’t. Either way, I know it’s wrong. I guess we never really know the effects of our sins until we die.
 
If you know you are in mortal sin, do not receive it. Stay in the pew. I have been in that situation where I was the only one staying and people are giving you that look ‘oh he must be a great sinner’. Doesn’t matter, never give in to peer pressure and make things worse.
 
I think they probably think, “Poor you, he missed the Confession.”
 
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do you think that happens to us when we receive Communion with a mortal sin on our soul, or like if we were intoxicated…or we’re thinking of our shopping list…or walking right out of church… Maybe it just opens the door for an attack we’re hopefully saved from or it’s like just another mortal sin?
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I’m not sure how receiving with a known mortal sin on one’s soul equates to receiving while intoxicated, distracted, or walking out of church.

The latter could easily be venial sins, or perhaps even no sin at all. For example, if someone is walking right out of church because they have to get home quickly to take care of a sick person, or because they are going to be late for work but really wanted to hear Mass or receive Communion on their lunch break. Or were they thinking of their shopping list because again, they have people at home they need to care for, and were thinking of the special food they needed to get for the ill person or that the baby needed more diapers so add that to the list?
Even intoxication could simply be a matter of poor judgment, especially if one observed the 1-hour fasting time and the drink causing the intoxication was taken more than an hour earlier with the expectation of the effect wearing off before Mass, or it could even be the mental illness of addiction triggering the drinking.

Judas had formed the intention of doing a really bad thing: betraying his friend Jesus for money.
He wasn’t merely distracted or dealing with some other responsibility or making a mistake in judgment.
He was planning to do something really evil.
There is a difference between planning to do something really evil, and just bumbling about.
 
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If you know you are in mortal sin, do not receive it. Stay in the pew. I have been in that situation where I was the only one staying and people are giving you that look ‘oh he must be a great sinner’.
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Actually, what I usually think when I see someone sitting there is that perhaps they are not Catholic. This is because my non-Catholic husband used to go to Mass with me sometimes and stay in the pew.

The only time I think in terms of people perhaps having missed Confession is where I go to a TLM Mass or a Hispanic Mass and large numbers of people are sitting in the pews. Even then, I don’t judge them for doing so - it’s their choice and frankly I am more focused on whether I myself am worthy to be receiving, since it always seems like the many sitting in the pews are giving me a bit of a fisheye for going up.
 
So, what did He say concerning who is and is not worth to receive him under the form of bread and wine. Please cite his words.
 
Dude, I’m just soliciting thoughts! I don’t to mass drunk and I don’t receive the Eucharist when I’m in a state of mortal sin. I’m also seeing how I could apply scripture to every day life.
 
His Words are the Words of the Church.

You can’t try decapitating the Church from Christ, it is His Body, when the Church speaks, Christ speaks.
 
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