Eucharistic Miracle in Poland approved by Bishop, proven by DNA testing

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Thanks for posting this. 👍 He is with us always, even to the end of the world.
 
Abiding_in_Love said:
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Like the miracle of Lanciano, it points to the heart of one who has been wounded.
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I thought that the accidents of the Bread remained according to Transubstantiation, and that there was no transformation of the accidents into human flesh? All that is accessible to the senses was supposed to be bread and not human flesh, according to the doctrine of Transubstantiation. Is it now being claimed that Transubstantiation is wrong and that human flesh is accessible to the senses?
 
Tomdstone said:
I thought that the accidents of the Bread remained according to Transubstantiation, and that there was no transformation of the accidents into human flesh? All that is accessible to the senses was supposed to be bread and not human flesh, according to the doctrine of Transubstantiation. Is it now being claimed that Transubstantiation is wrong and that human flesh is accessible to the senses?
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Usually, after the consecration, the appearances of bread and wine remain. In certain circumstances, however, the Lord allows these visible miracles to occur to increase the faith and devotion of his followers. That said, a miracle takes place at every Catholic Mass, regardless of whether the bread and wine change appearances or not.
 
Read the book, “Eucharistic Miracles” by Joan Carrol Cruz for descriptions of similar miraculous events.

God’s ways are not our ways.

He chooses to do things that we cannot comprehend.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Read the book, “Eucharistic Miracles” by Joan Carrol Cruz for descriptions of similar miraculous events.

God’s ways are not our ways.

He chooses to do things that we cannot comprehend.
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Yes, yes, yes to the book recommendation! That’s a great book. 🙂
 
GEddie said:
DNA testing?
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More to the point, the issue of contamination. This host was handled by a priest or certainly other human (being Poland, most likely a priest), was in the hands of the communicant who dropped it, was on the floor for some period, was on a corporal that had been handled by a human. Plus, the article cites histopathology, which is the microscopic examination of tissue, not DNA sequencing. Events like this always seem to me as more sensationalistic than reverential.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
More to the point, the issue of contamination. This host was handled by a priest or certainly other human (being Poland, most likely a priest), was in the hands of the communicant who dropped it, was on the floor for some period, was on a corporal that had been handled by a human. Plus, the article cites histopathology, which is the microscopic examination of tissue, not DNA sequencing. Events like this always seem to me as more sensationalistic than reverential.
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It seems strange to me that you’re downplaying something that is connected to the ongoing history of Eucharistic miracles in the Church. The miracle of Lanciano is just like this and it’s from the eighth century. It’s meant to increase our faith and reverence, not to stir up sensationalism.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
More to the point, the issue of contamination. This host was handled by a priest or certainly other human (being Poland, most likely a priest), was in the hands of the communicant who dropped it, was on the floor for some period, was on a corporal that had been handled by a human. Plus, the article cites histopathology, which is the microscopic examination of tissue, not DNA sequencing. Events like this always seem to me as more sensationalistic than reverential.
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In order for the bishop to approve any miracle he has to be convinced of it’s worthiness. He certainly didn’t do the testing, but trusted a lab to give him the results. I see no reason to question either the lab or the bishop’s ruling. After all, this is not a matter of doctrine or dogma but of devotion. One is free to accept it or not, but it’s still up to the bishop to determine whether or not it is worthy of belief, not us. 🙂
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
More to the point, the issue of contamination. This host was handled by a priest or certainly other human (being Poland, most likely a priest), was in the hands of the communicant who dropped it, was on the floor for some period, was on a corporal that had been handled by a human. Plus, the article cites histopathology, which is the microscopic examination of tissue, not DNA sequencing. Events like this always seem to me as more sensationalistic than reverential.
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None of those things would result in the creation of heart tissue, which is what examination showed this to be. Even if DNA testing was not utilized, the muscular structure of the heart is unique, so visual identification is a viable option.
 
Tomdstone said:
I thought that the accidents of the Bread remained according to Transubstantiation, and that there was no transformation of the accidents into human flesh? All that is accessible to the senses was supposed to be bread and not human flesh, according to the doctrine of Transubstantiation. Is it now being claimed that Transubstantiation is wrong and that human flesh is accessible to the senses?
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NO, a true Miracle takes place if it is proven to be authentic. God gives us miracles to prove HE is God and nothing is impossible for Him. God Bless. Memaw
 
Gently, folks! “Worthy of belief” does not mean “forbidden to believe something else” or “forbidden to wonder about lab procedures”. Scientists who believe in miracles are supposed to be more rigorous about investigating them, not less.

Eucharistic miracles are possible and they happen. On the other handy, there is a strain of red mold in Europe which has caused a lot of false alarms mistaken for miracles, and other honest mistakes and dishonest frauds have occurred in the past. It would be sacrilegious to mistake mold for Jesus, so it is proper to be cautious. The faithful are supposed to use their own God-given prudence, as well as consulting that of the bishop.
 
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