Eucharistic Miracles and DNA

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I’m interested in Eucharistic miracles but have a question about what’s said in this article (and I think I’ve read the same thing elsewhere).
It says that the miracle of Buenos Aires lab reports were compared to the miracle of Lanciano lab reports by experts and that “their DNA is identical.” I also read another article (don’t have it handy) that said testing of the Lanciano miracle “continues to this day”, yet everything else I’ve read said the last tests were done in 1970. DNA wasn’t a part of testing in 1970.

Is testing still going on with the Lanciano miracle and is the DNA identical to the Buenos Aires miracle?
 
One wonders what the Register’s reprinted article means by “lab report.” What exactly was in the report? Were there samples of the tissue itself, for instance?

A quick Google search indicates that heart tissue is not as easy to extract DNA from as other tissues. Maybe the author of the Register article is pulling from the other posted article, which uses “compatible” and “could be the same person” but could easily be misunderstood. The word “could” provides ambiguity. “Could belong” as in “the obstacle is removed,” or as in “might belong”?
 
e_c said:
One wonders what the Register’s reprinted article means by “lab report.” What exactly was in the report? Were there samples of the tissue itself, for instance?

A quick Google search indicates that heart tissue is not as easy to extract DNA from as other tissues. Maybe the author of the Register article is pulling from the other posted article, which uses “compatible” and “could be the same person” but could easily be misunderstood. The word “could” provides ambiguity. “Could belong” as in “the obstacle is removed,” or as in “might belong”?
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Yes. This thread is a retread of another from a couple of years ago. The book about the Buenos Aires miracle is full of all kinds of vague statements. The chain of command of the sample is really sketchy. At one point the sample was shipped Fed Ex. The whole deal is really sketchy and honestly disrespectful to the Eucharist, and to the faithful. The book is shameful.
 
If Scripture and the inerrant teaching of the Church aren’t sufficient, I don’t think a sketchy lab report would make any difference.
 
robertmidwest said:
Yes. This thread is a retread of another from a couple of years ago. The book about the Buenos Aires miracle is full of all kinds of vague statements. The chain of command of the sample is really sketchy. At one point the sample was shipped Fed Ex. The whole deal is really sketchy and honestly disrespectful to the Eucharist, and to the faithful. The book is shameful.
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A clerical authority figure must have approved the testing, right…?

Who is the responsible “guardian” for the Lanciano Eucharistic miracle?
 
I have heard that you cannot get a DNA from Christ’s blood as He did not have a father.
 
EIF5A said:
A clerical authority figure must have approved the testing, right…?

Who is the responsible “guardian” for the Lanciano Eucharistic miracle?
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In the Bueno Aires case it was Pope Francis, before he was Pope.
 
Faith1960 said:
ncregister.com/daily-news/eucharistic-miracle-bleeding-host-phenomenon-reported-in-dioceses-worldwide

I’m interested in Eucharistic miracles but have a question about what’s said in this article (and I think I’ve read the same thing elsewhere).
It says that the miracle of Buenos Aires lab reports were compared to the miracle of Lanciano lab reports by experts and that “their DNA is identical.” I also read another article (don’t have it handy) that said testing of the Lanciano miracle “continues to this day”, yet everything else I’ve read said the last tests were done in 1970. DNA wasn’t a part of testing in 1970.

Is testing still going on with the Lanciano miracle and is the DNA identical to the Buenos Aires miracle?
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Ok, how about a comparison between Lanciano and any number of other Eucharistic miracles?

And is testing still going on with the Lanciano sample?
 
devotiontoourlady.com/miracles-of-the-eucharist.html

I know some of you find the story of the Buenos Aries miracle “sketchy”, but could someone please read the section titled Same DNA as Lanciano Host and tell me how
the DNA is the same as Lanciano when Lanciano was tested long before DNA testing was discovered?

I’ve read LOTS of articles online saying the same thing and the credibility of the Buenos Aires miracle aside, how did they use Lanciano DNA as a comparison?
 
Faith1960 said:
devotiontoourlady.com/miracles-of-the-eucharist.html

I know some of you find the story of the Buenos Aries miracle “sketchy”, but could someone please read the section titled Same DNA as Lanciano Host and tell me how
the DNA is the same as Lanciano when Lanciano was tested long before DNA testing was discovered?

I’ve read LOTS of articles online saying the same thing and the credibility of the Buenos Aires miracle aside, how did they use Lanciano DNA as a comparison?
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Anyone?
 
Faith1960 said:
devotiontoourlady.com/miracles-of-the-eucharist.html

I know some of you find the story of the Buenos Aries miracle “sketchy”, but could someone please read the section titled Same DNA as Lanciano Host and tell me how
the DNA is the same as Lanciano when Lanciano was tested long before DNA testing was discovered?

I’ve read LOTS of articles online saying the same thing and the credibility of the Buenos Aires miracle aside, how did they use Lanciano DNA as a comparison?
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Show me exactly where it says Lanciano Host was tested for DNA before DNA testing existed. That doesn’t make sense. Obviously if it was DNA tested your statement is wrong.
 
thistle said:
Show me exactly where it says Lanciano Host was tested for DNA before DNA testing existed. That doesn’t make sense. Obviously if it was DNA tested your statement is wrong.
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It’s in the first paragraph under “Same DNA as Lanciano Host”. It says “what is extraordinary about this fact is that the DNA is the exact same match to the DNA from another Eucharist miracle that took place in the 8th century, in Lanciano Italy. This was confirmation that both samples came from the same person!”

I’ve read basically the same thing in other articles.
 
Faith1960 said:
It’s in the first paragraph under “Same DNA as Lanciano Host”. It says “what is extraordinary about this fact is that the DNA is the exact same match to the DNA from another Eucharist miracle that took place in the 8th century, in Lanciano Italy. This was confirmation that both samples came from the same person!”

I’ve read basically the same thing in other articles.
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The articles don’t say Lanciano’s EM was tested for DNA, they say the DNA is the same as Buenos Aires, which suggests they had some way of comparison.
 
fatherrays.blogspot.com/2014/06/eucharistic-miracles-and-their-purpose.html

This one says the flesh in the Buenos Aires miracle had DNA tests revealing an exact match with the flesh at Lanciano…

lauraewhitehead.wordpress.com/tag/lanciano/

This one says they have the same DNA. There are numerous articles online that say this and what I want to know, maybe I wasn’t clear, is how could the scientists tell the DNA in the samples from Lanciano and Buenos Aires were the same without doing DNA testing back in the 70’s and 80’s? Some articles I’ve read say they were going from lab reports.

Did they save some tissue for later testing?
Did what they tested previously come to light later, or what?
 
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