Eucharistic Prayer?

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Where does the Eucharistic Prayer begin and end?

Is it allowed to proclaim the gospel in the altar (table) of sacrifice if the ambo is present?
 
viktor aleksndr:
Where does the Eucharistic Prayer begin and end?
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After the Sanctus (Holy, Holy, Holy)
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Is it allowed to proclaim the gospel in the altar (table) of sacrifice if the ambo is present?
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I don’t think so. It sounds to me like an attempt to put the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist on an equal level, which they are not. God is present in both, but in a more substantial way in the Eucharist.
 
It begins:**
Preface**. The Eucharistic prayer begins with a thanksgiving offered to God. Indeed, it is thanksgiving that gives the Eucharist its name (Greek, meaning “Thanks”). During the preface, the priest says “The Lord be with you… Lift up your hearts… Let us give thanks to the Lord our God.” After this dialogue, the priest gives thanks to God for his saving acts.

It ends:
Final Doxology and Amen - The Eucharistic prayer comes to a close when the priest gives the final doxology and the people or choir respond, “Amen.” A doxology is a prayer that praises God’s glory. “*Through Him, with Him, in Him, in the Unity of the Holy Spirit, all glory and honor is yours, almighty Father, for ever and ever.” *We respond with “Amen,” and stand. Amen is a Hebrew word used to signify agreement with a prayer and confidence that God will hear it. This Amen is our most important role in the Eucharistic prayer, since we give assent to what the priest has prayed in our behalf. This is why we call it the “Great Amen”.

This is taken from Jimmy Akin’s Mass Appeal.
 
One more question to tack onto this thread…Can the celebrating priest add things to the Eucharistic prayer? We have a temporary priest in town for a couple of weeks and he is a converted protestant minister. His homily was excellent and his bible study class was top notch! However, I felt a little uncomfortable during the Eucharistic prayer. He was adding things to it that aren’t normally there and I as under the assumption that this was frowned upon? It seemed like part of his Eucharistc Prayer was a continuation of his homily.
It could just be me being paranoid, but I got the feeling that the Eucharist was not getting the attention it is due and that the homily and the readings were the center of that particular mass.
Is it ok to insert dialogue into the Eucharistic Prayer?
 
Let’s look at the simple answer first. There are four different Eucharistic Prayers that our priest is allowed to say, the longest being about twice as long as the shortest. Could he have been using one of these four and you’ve just never heard that used?

All four have the Consecration, and other things in common, but they are not identical at all.

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No, he was adding things to the shorter version of the Eucharistic Prayer. They were prayers but not ones that are found in any of the four Eucahristic Prayers.
 
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No, he was adding things to the shorter version of the Eucharistic Prayer. They were prayers but not ones that are found in any of the four Eucahristic Prayers.
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Any part of the Mass has to be said by the priest as it is written. He is not allowed to change anything. It sounds like this priest was “playing to the crowd.” This is all too common now in the New Mass. Some priests feel they have to improvise to capture the attention of the congregation when, if done properly, the Mass will bring the right kind of attention. Our Lord is actually offering Himself through the priest and the priest’s words. Why is anything else needed?
 
adding or removing some words in the eucharistic prayer is a big no no! it is against the GIRM.
 
adding or removing some words in the eucharistic prayer is a BIG no no! it is not allowed by the HOLY SEE
 
I had guessed as much. The question now becomes what to do about it. I am on the parish council and I feel obligated to do something about it. However, what can I do? Our normal priest was on vacation for 2 weeks and returns this weekend so we will be back to normal. Otherwise I would speak to the current priest about my concerns.
I will absolutely talk with our permanent priest about my concerns, but should I do more? I have no doubt that this priest celebrates all of his masses in this way and that is a little distressing to me. I have met my bishop in the past and he leans much more towards the traditions of the church. I believe he would know what to do, but my question is do I take it up with him or let my resident priest handle it?
By the way, mass this morning he had people reciting prayers with him during the Eucharistic Prayer. From the pews we were repeating and singing during the Eucharistic Prayer!? :mad: I was so saddened I had to leave, which I know I shouldn’t have done. The whole mass is about the Eucharist but I felt disappointed about the lack of respect given to The Real Presence. Again, I know two wrongs don’t make a right so please don’t flame me to hard… :o
 
I would suggest making copies of relevant sections of the GIRM and studying them, then meeting with the priest privately and discussing your concerns with him. If the response is unsatisfactory, go to your pastor, and so on up the chain of command.
 
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