Eucharistic Prayer

[rwoehmke]

MackerelSnapper:

I was told that the universal norms required standing at the Eucharistic Prayer, with the exception of the Consecration and that the American Bishops had to request permission from Rome for people to kneel from the end of the Sanctus to the Great Amen.

Any of this true?

I believe that is correct for the 2000 Girm as wellas the one before it. I seem to recall a footnote that dispite all that each individual Bishop could order things differently in his own diocese. It seems tome that Bishops have a lot more lee-way than we credit them with.

 

[khkhk]

Podo2004:

i don’t really get why we our suppose to kneel, many of you voted to kneel. Why though? i just don’t get it, im still young and learning and i want to learn as much as possible.
Podo The Hobbit

It depends on which part your talking about… I stand and kneel at different times…

 

[moedom]

philjane:

In canada, it depends what diocese you live in—in our diocese, most parishes stand for the consecration—i was just in another diocese where everybody kneels for the consecration----it depends on the bishop (or the previous bishop as the case may be)i understand that the canadian bishops voted last year that everybody kneel for the consecration—but it hasn’t happened yet

Here in our diocese we have both. I do not recall the Canadian bishops voting on this last year. Maybe I fell asleep that week. Can you give me your source if any? My preference is kneeling, as someone said in this post what would you do if Christ were to appear to you. In fact I would probably prostate myself. (But that would be kind of hard to do in a pew, wouldn’t it?) For me this is a sign of worship.

Moe

 

[ridesawhitehors]

deogratias:

I kneel from the Sanctus to the Great Amen at the Normative Mass.

Ditto

 

[Podo2004]

khkhk:

It depends on which part your talking about… I stand and kneel at different times…

i’m talking about kneeling or standing at the eucharistic prayer…
I seem to be(along with a few people) the only one that stands at the eucharistic prayer( i feel lonely) lol

Podo the hobbit

 

[khkhk]

Podo2004:

i’m talking about kneeling or standing at the eucharistic prayer…
I seem to be(along with a few people) the only one that stands at the eucharistic prayer( i feel lonely) lol

Podo the hobbit

Which part of the Eucharistic Prayer???

 

[boppysbud]

When I am priveledged (it is over three hudred miles away to either) enough to attend Eastern Catholic or Orthodox Divine Liturgy I always kneel at two points.

1. The words of institution

and

1. The Epiclesis.

 

[Mperea75]

+JMJ

Where I am at the University they do not have room to kneel so the Archbishop has given them dispensation from kneeling so as to accomodate the people who attend mass.
However, my preference is to knee when ever I can. Mainly cause I do think it shows reverence to Our Lord in the Eucharist and there is a anonymous saying that someone said “The tallest you ever be is when you kneel”

 

[puzzleannie]

Podo2004:

i don’t really get why we our suppose to kneel, many of you voted to kneel. Why though? i just don’t get it, im still young and learning and i want to learn as much as possible.

I kneel from the beginning of the Eucharistic prayer until after the Great Amen (just before the Our Father), and again after the Lamb of God during the fraction and Priest’s communion, stand for communion since churches removed communion rails making it virtually impossible for anyone not young and healthy to kneel to receive (a shocking abuse of Christian charity), kneel for period of silence after communion, sit for the announcements (don’t know when they were added to the ritual book) and stand for communion prayer and last blessing. WHY you ask, because it is prescribed in the rubrics, confirmed by the GIRM for Latin rite Masses. When the rubrics change I will change.

 

[Ana_Reus]

In our Parish we kneel during the Eurcharistic prayer. I would not want to be standing. I was brought into the church this year on Easter Vigil. And I feel really close to God kneeling, and feel that kneeling is more reverent. I still have alot to learn about being Catholic, but I love it. I wish I had looked into the Catholic Church a long time ago. Ana

 

[LittleRose]

Voice_Of_Reason:

Offtopic but with so many topics on the Eucharist, I don’t feel like creating another topic.

Anyway, I was on one parish website and they explained that they will now stand from the time the priest takes communion until EVERYONE receives communion. This parish is pretty liberal…is this becoming the ‘norm’ or what? What’s that all about??? :bigyikes:

I am not well traveled or well-read enough to know whether this is becoming a “norm”, however it is becoming more common, and, to my knowledge, is allowed as long as the Bishop gives permission (Priests, to my knowledge, are not allowed to make significant alterations in the liturgy at their own discretion, and I have witnessed instances in which one got in trouble with his bishop for doing so.)

In the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, where I was living until very recently, the congregation stands during communion until all have recieved. This was a recent change, and Cardinal Mahoney’s stated reason was so that it would be a sign of our unity in Christ through the Eucharist. In the Dioceses of Sacramento and San Diego, where I have been to mass w/ family, they still kneel after communion.

My understanding is that the only time we are required to kneel during the Eucharistic Prayer or communion is during the consecreation (health permitting, of course) out of respect for the sacredness of that moment. The rest of the time it is up to the discretion of your Bishop, who makes his decision based on what he believes are the needs of the faithful. Hope that helps!

 

[Chris101]

I definitely kneel. My mom told me a long time ago that during consecration ‘heaven is open’ - the best time to pray

 

[Podo2004]

puzzleannie:

Podo2004:

i don’t really get why we our suppose to kneel, many of you voted to kneel. Why though? i just don’t get it, im still young and learning and i want to learn as much as possible.

I kneel from the beginning of the Eucharistic prayer until after the Great Amen (just before the Our Father), and again after the Lamb of God during the fraction and Priest’s communion, stand for communion since churches removed communion rails making it virtually impossible for anyone not young and healthy to kneel to receive (a shocking abuse of Christian charity), kneel for period of silence after communion, sit for the announcements (don’t know when they were added to the ritual book) and stand for communion prayer and last blessing. WHY you ask, because it is prescribed in the rubrics, confirmed by the GIRM for Latin rite Masses. When the rubrics change I will change.

LATIN RITE MASSES… right yet i attend the new mass because i don’t really agree with the latin mass.

Podo The Hobbit

 

[Podo2004]

LittleRose:

I am not well traveled or well-read enough to know whether this is becoming a “norm”, however it is becoming more common, and, to my knowledge, is allowed as long as the Bishop gives permission (Priests, to my knowledge, are not allowed to make significant alterations in the liturgy at their own discretion, and I have witnessed instances in which one got in trouble with his bishop for doing so.)

In the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, where I was living until very recently, the congregation stands during communion until all have recieved. This was a recent change, and Cardinal Mahoney’s stated reason was so that it would be a sign of our unity in Christ through the Eucharist. In the Dioceses of Sacramento and San Diego, where I have been to mass w/ family, they still kneel after communion.

My understanding is that the only time we are required to kneel during the Eucharistic Prayer or communion is during the consecreation (health permitting, of course) out of respect for the sacredness of that moment. The rest of the time it is up to the discretion of your Bishop, who makes his decision based on what he believes are the needs of the faithful. Hope that helps!

yet it says in the eucharistic prayer that we are worthy to STAND in YOUR presence LORD.(during the consecration and after… well except for communion right after you recieve you kneel)Notice “STAND”, not kneel!

I think i complicate people’s lives sometimes, sry

Podo The Hobbit

 

[Podo2004]

Podo2004:

LATIN RITE MASSES… right yet i attend the new mass because i don’t really agree with the latin mass.

Podo The Hobbit

wait does latin rite mean today’s mass??? oh well, i still stand anyway… i’ve still got loads to learn…

Podo The Hobbit

 

[mtr01]

VincentO:

In the UK (as far as I’ve experienced) we almost always kneel from the Sanctus up until the great amen with kneeling after the Our Father up until communion.

In Scotland in particular we tend to kneel from ‘May the Lord accept the sacrifice…’ up until the great amen.

Generally after communion people tend to kneel to make private prayer and reflection but by the time the final blessing comes we are all sitting. We kneel for the final blessing where I am, but I know from the amount of visitors that it’s quite normal to stand.
Vince

This is the way I remember it from groing up (in the Archdiocese of Baltimore)in the 70’s. Kneeling after the *Sanctus *until the Great Amen…then standing for the Our Father and Sign of Peace, then kneeling again until Communion. Unfortunately I was away from the Church for about 20 years. When I came back, I was amazed to see everyone at my new parish standing through the enitre Eucharistic Prayer through the Our Father and then sittting until communion. Perhaps it had something to do with Archbishop Borders retiring and Cardinal Keeler succeeding him while I was “away”.

Regardless, I have been standing (and bowing) ever since so as not to show disunity (as well as not being sure if kneeling was still permitted). Since finding out that kneeling is still permitted, and that I find it to be the proper posture of respect for our Lord, I have decided to resume the practice of kneeling at Mass.

 

[khkhk]

Podo2004:

wait does latin rite mean today’s mass??? oh well, i still stand anyway… i’ve still got loads to learn…

Podo The Hobbit

This question is now bothering me! (and confusing me…lol) I’ll ask an apologist and see what they see, so you (and I) and anyone else can get a good answer!

 

[itsjustdave1988]

Podo2004:

how many of you stand or kneel throughout the eucharistic prayer? Any information that says you have to kneel or stand would be appreciated

From James Akin:

It is the standard practice, worldwide, to stand for most of the Eucharistic prayer. That is the general rule, and a country has to get a dispensation for additional kneeling. However, the general, worldwide rule is also for people to kneel during the consecration itself (then resume standing for the rest of Mass).

America is a country that has permission to kneel more than just at the consecration (through to the Great Amen), and that is the rule here…

Jesus is concerned about is what is going on in our heart, and our outward postures are intended to help us assume certain inward attitudes that we have been trained to associate with those postures. In our country [USA], a nation where people have been so obsessed with individualism that they have forgotten what reverence for royalty is like, extra kneeling at Mass is appropriate to teach them the reverence Christ the King deserves.

cin.org/users/james/questions/q046.htm

 

[Audrey]

khkhk:

This question is now bothering me! (and confusing me…lol) I’ll ask an apologist and see what they see, so you (and I) and anyone else can get a good answer!

What a great idea to ask an apologist! I always thought that it was proper to kneel during the entire Eucharistic Prayer. In fact, I’ve never been to a church that did otherwise. Thank you!

 

[khkhk]

Ok!!! I got an answer. Here’s what she (the apologist) said:

Liturgical law requires the faithful to kneel during the consecration.

The *General Instruction of the Roman Missal *no. 43 says the following:

“In the dioceses of the United States of America, [the faithful] should kneel beginning after the singing or recitation of the Sanctus until after the Amen of the Eucharistic Prayer, except when prevented on occasion by reasons of health, lack of space, the large number of people present, or some other good reason. Those who do not kneel ought to make a profound bow when the priest genuflects after the consecration. The faithful kneel after the Agnus Dei unless the diocesan bishop determines otherwise."

I hope this clears everything up! I do what this says too!