Eucharistic Prayers - St Joseph as Mary's Spouse

[Roseeurekacross]

In 2013 a beautiful Decree by the Vatican

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20130501_san-giuseppe_en.html

Regarding Eucharistic Prayers II , III , IV.

and acknowledging St Joesph as the spouse of The Blessed Virgin Mary.

I love listening to these prayers and had often wondered if, apart from those defined in this Decree and the Roman Missal. ( which I have not seen)…
If a Priest can add individual saints , apart from Patron Saints, Feast day Saints and Saints that were at the Parish in life.

 

[friardchips]

In 2013 a beautiful Decree by the Vatican

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20130501_san-giuseppe_en.html

Regarding Eucharistic Prayers II , III , IV.

and acknowledging St Joesph as the spouse of The Blessed Virgin Mary.

I love listening to these prayers and had often wondered if, apart from those defined in this Decree and the Roman Missal. ( which I have not seen)…
If a Priest can add individual saints , apart from Patron Saints, Feast day Saints and Saints that were at the Parish in life.

Hi. Has anyone ever told you that you are unbelievable?!

What is wrong with being all for one, and one for all - like every Catholic Musketeer can be?..

WADR, do you think that people don’t know that God told St. Joseph in Scripture, to take Mary home as his wife?!

This doesn’t do away with other teachings.

Enough said.

Separate issue: I do, however, think it is respectful that you have started a new thread in order to discuss this topic (if you must).

 

[Roseeurekacross]

In Mass this morning, Monday, second day of our first big week, in the lead up
To Palm Sunday… In the Eucharistic Prayer, my Priest said :

and St Joseph Her Most Chaste Spouse.

Did you go to Mass Sunday, Friard Chips? What did your Priest say?
I must admit to thinking more about the Homily yesterday, Sunday… We have the Priest with a real gift for mesmerising the crowd. He spoke of Faith , Hope , Love. And in this fifth week we must walk out of our own tombs like Lazurus, and accept everything is possible with God.

The Priest speaks so well that no one minds the Mass goes over the Hour. He has an exercise for us every week. And He has an accent!
We are blessed to be so well taught by our Shepherds.

Next week on Holy Thursday after Mass the Bishop takes us to the hall for a couple of hours for a Vigil.

 

[Don_Ruggero]

In 2013 a beautiful Decree by the Vatican

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20130501_san-giuseppe_en.html

Regarding Eucharistic Prayers II , III , IV.

and acknowledging St Joesph as the spouse of The Blessed Virgin Mary.

I love listening to these prayers and had often wondered if, apart from those defined in this Decree and the Roman Missal. ( which I have not seen)…
If a Priest can add individual saints , apart from Patron Saints, Feast day Saints and Saints that were at the Parish in life.

In Eucharistic Prayer III, the Presider may add the name of a Saint or a Blessed. It can be the patron saint of the parish, the saint of the day [if one is being celebrated] or another saint. The priest is advised to be cautious about imposing any personal devotion on to parishioners in a public Mass. The fact that the priest is a missionary from Uganda, for example, does not mean that he should use that possibility to name Saint Charles Lwanga at every Mass at which he uses Eucharistic Prayer III because they are each Ugandan.

The priest should not expand this slot into a litany of individual saints. In the case of saints observed together in a common liturgical memorial, I add both…“Saints Perpetua and Felicity,” for example, or “Saint Andrew Dũng-Lạc and companions” without however naming individually all 116 of his companions who are commemorated in the same liturgical memorial.

Eucharistic Prayer I has its two respective lists of saints and additions are not to be made. There is no provision for the naming of a saint or blessed in Eucharistic Prayer II and IV.

You did not ask, however, there is provision for the addition of a named saint in the Eucharistic Prayer for Use in Masses for Various Needs I-IV [which is, essentially, the Swiss Anaphora that we have long had in Europe]

The three Eucharistic Prayers for Masses with Children do not admit of the naming of a saint in the anaphora. Neither do either of the Eucharistic Prayers for Masses of Reconciliation, which go back to the Holy Year 1975 and are a gift to the Church by the Blessed Paul VI. Sadly, in spite of their beauty and richness, these last nine Eucharistic prayers are less well known and experienced than Eucharistic Prayers I-IV…and Eucharistic Prayer IV is not in wide use itself.

 

[Phemie]

Eucharistic Prayer I has its two respective lists of saints and additions are not to be made. There is no provision for the naming of a saint or blessed in Eucharistic Prayer II and IV.

You did not ask, however, there is provision for the addition of a named saint in the Eucharistic Prayer for Use in Masses for Various Needs I-IV [which is, essentially, the Swiss Anaphora that we have long had in Europe]

The three Eucharistic Prayers for Masses with Children do not admit of the naming of a saint in the anaphora. Neither do either of the Eucharistic Prayers for Masses of Reconciliation, which go back to the Holy Year 1975 and are a gift to the Church by the Blessed Paul VI. Sadly, in spite of their beauty and richness, these last nine Eucharistic prayers are less well known and experienced than Eucharistic Prayers I-IV…and Eucharistic Prayer IV is not in wide use itself.

We have, in the last couple of years, experienced EP IV a few times, one or the other of the Reconciliation EPs, and EP I several times after not hearing it for years.

Our new priest adds to EPII: “Remember also our parents, brothers and sisters who have fallen asleep in the hope of the resurrection.”

“Have mercy on us all we pray,that with the Blessed Virgin Mary (…) the blessed Apostles, his glorious martyrs…”

It’s possible that the martyrs were added after my personal missal was printed but I would have thought that our parents were included in “our brothers and sisters who have fallen asleep in the hope of the resurrection.”

 

[Don_Ruggero]

We have, in the last couple of years, experienced EP IV a few times, one or the other of the Reconciliation EPs, and EP I several times after not hearing it for years.

Our new priest adds to EPII: “Remember also our parents, brothers and sisters who have fallen asleep in the hope of the resurrection.”

“Have mercy on us all we pray,that with the Blessed Virgin Mary (…) the blessed Apostles, his glorious martyrs…”

It’s possible that the martyrs were added after my personal missal was printed but I would have thought that our parents were included in “our brothers and sisters who have fallen asleep in the hope of the resurrection.”

Well…gloriosis martyribus does appear in EP III. Charitably, perhaps, he sees it in EP II when it is not there because he expects to see it there due to its presence in EP III. As you well know, the Presider is not supposed to mix and match formulae in an anaphora.

It is always disturbing when, for example, a priest loses his parents to death and suddenly an adaptation such as “parents” finds its way into the declamation of the liturgical prayers where it does not belong. Of course, parents, friends, relatives and benefactors are included with the remembrance for “our brothers and sisters”.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Thankyou Father.

Your words and advice are an absolute Treasure.