Eucharistic service without a priest

[thistle]

Banned in Santa Rosa.
In response to abuses. Not because the practice is not ‘liked’.

It’s not liked because of the abuses. I don’t think there should be Communion services
Where are the communities that you claim need those services?

 

[vz71]

Where are the communities that you claim need those services?

In my own community, there is a single priest to cover 3 churches and a couple hundred miles of area.
Without a priest in many circumstances, the laity needs to step it up to make sure we stay an active Catholic community.

 

[vz71]

Where are the communities that you claim need those services?

Just a thought, have we researched rural Alaska?
I am sure the priest coverage is pretty low there as well.

 

[Cor_ad_Cor]

And it doesn’t seem like lay people should have such a role since their hands aren’t consecrated.

Consecrated hands are necessary to confect the Eucharist, not distribute it. The Church has ruled on this sufficiently.

And I’ve seen women do it as well and I was under the impression that women weren’t allowed on the alter.

Nope; no such restriction on gender about who can be in the sanctuary. (No one should be on the altar )

Modern doesn’t always equal “weird” and traditional doesn’t always equal preferable.

Again, any response to the questions others have asked you above?

 

[thistle]

Just a thought, have we researched rural Alaska?
I am sure the priest coverage is pretty low there as well.

You seem desperate to find places yet your earlier comments implied there was widespread need for Communion Services. I don’t believe there is.

 

[thistle]

no such restriction on gender about who can be in the sanctuary

I haven’t heard of a Communion Service here in the Philippines but if there are I am not sure a female would be allowed to lead it.
In this country females are not permitted to be altar servers or EMHC’s.

 

[Mi_Rose]

We have a priest shortagr where I live. Priests can be responsible for up to 3 parishes.

 

[vz71]

You seem desperate to find places

I find two right off the top of my head, one of which is personal experience. And you think it desperate.
That is hilarious.

yet your earlier comments implied there was widespread need for Communion Services.

Nope. I am just addressing that there is a need.

I don’t believe there is.

One date in particular every year proves you wrong.

 

[vz71]

It’s not liked because of the abuses. I don’t think there should be Communion services

The Church disagrees.

 

[thistle]

The Church disagrees.

The Church does not like Communion Services and although they are permitted the Church would rather they did not happen.
There is no need for them. It is not required to receive Communion often.

 

[vz71]

The Church does not like Communion Services

Proof is required here.
I have duly jumped through the hoop.
Your turn. Prove it.

although they are permitted the Church would rather they did not happen.

Prove it.

There is no need for them.

And yet every year we have these services throughout the US (I haven’t bothered checking beyond).

 

[thistle]

The Church does not like Communion Services

I guess you don’t read my posts so I will repeat this again.
This is not a diocese position. This is the Church position.

" In the Instruction on the Eucharist issued by the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments on March 25, 2004, we read:

1. It is necessary to avoid any sort of confusion between this type of gathering (Communion Service without Mass) and the celebration of the Eucharist. The diocesan Bishops, therefore, should prudently discern whether Holy Communion ought to be distributed in these gatherings.
2. Likewise, especially if Holy Communion is distributed during such celebrations, the diocesan Bishop, to whose exclusive competence this matter pertains, must not easily grant permission for such celebrations to be held on weekdays, especially in places where it was possible or would be possible to have the celebration of Mass on the preceding or the following Sunday. Priests are therefore earnestly requested to celebrate Mass daily for the people in one of the churches entrusted to their care."

Your entire argument is that I should use the word like but use not prefer or something else! Big deal. The Church does not want Communion Services.

 

[vz71]

The Church does not want Communion Services.

Prove it.
I have yet to see you bring forth any evidence for the Church not wanting communion services.

I do see evidence that the Church wishes to remove abuses, but that is not the same thing.

 

[vz71]

Your entire argument is that I should use the word like but use not prefer or something else! Big deal.

Words mean things.
In this case, the specify something you cannot prove.

 

[thistle]

Words mean things.
In this case, the specify something you cannot prove.

I produced statements from a Diocese and a statement from the Church.
You have produced nothing but empty words. Please show me a Church statement enthusing about Communion Services.

 

[CilladeRoma]

The Church wants Word services w/Holy Communion to be rare/non-existent during the week. The final decision is up to the Bishop as to the how’s and why’s.

Sunday is a different story. If a priest is not available to celebrate Mass and there is no other reasonable option, a Sunday service in lieu of a priest would be very appropriate.