Eucharistic Typology

[ncgolf]

I don’t want this to fall into a John 6 literal vs. symbolic discussion but rather why Catholics do see this in a different light than non-Catholics.

Part of this disagreement comes from the way Catholics interpret the Bible … as a whole … not piecemeal.

I would like people to post and discuss some Eucharistic typology found in the Bible … that lead to a particular interpretation of John 6. Catholics should post passages that support theirs and non-Catholics should use other Scripture that “types” their understanding … I will throw one out to begin this.

Luke 2:7, “and she gave birth to her firstborn son. She wrapped him in swaddling clothes and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.”

I submit the little word “manger” types what Catholics believe. A manger is a feeding trough … where animals come to get their food. Christ is laid in the manger for what … to be eaten … not just but Luke says Christ was not laid in a crib, the floor, on straw or in His mother’s lap but a feeding trough. Just a small piece of the puzzle.

 

[jkarp]

I don’t want this to fall into a John 6 literal vs. symbolic discussion but rather why Catholics do see this in a different light than non-Catholics.

Part of this disagreement comes from the way Catholics interpret the Bible … as a whole … not piecemeal.

I would like people to post and discuss some Eucharistic typology found in the Bible … that lead to a particular interpretation of John 6. Catholics should post passages that support theirs and non-Catholics should use other Scripture that “types” their understanding … I will throw one out to begin this.

Luke 2:7, “and she gave birth to her firstborn son. She wrapped him in swaddling clothes and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.”

I submit the little word “manger” types what Catholics believe. A manger is a feeding trough … where animals come to get their food. Christ is laid in the manger for what … to be eaten … not just but Luke says Christ was not laid in a crib, the floor, on straw or in His mother’s lap but a feeding trough. Just a small piece of the puzzle.

I don’t have any scripture quotations to post right now, but I would like to comment on my perception of the reason for the majority of (mis)interpretations that occur by improperly educated readers of the Bible.

There is a major tendency for people to read the Bible through a magnifying glass and look at individual words or sentences or passages by themselves rather than in context of the rest of scripture. For example, it is extremely important to read the Gospels with the Old Testament in mind because all of the people speaking and listening in the Gospels were doing so in the context of the Old Testament. The lens through which we read the New Testament should be the Old Testament.

 

[ncgolf]

I don’t have any scripture quotations to post right now, but I would like to comment on my perception of the reason for the majority of (mis)interpretations that occur by improperly educated readers of the Bible.

There is a major tendency for people to read the Bible through a magnifying glass and look at individual words or sentences or passages by themselves rather than in context of the rest of scripture. For example, it is extremely important to read the Gospels with the Old Testament in mind because all of the people speaking and listening in the Gospels were doing so in the context of the Old Testament. The lens through which we read the New Testament should be the Old Testament.

I agree … the Old reveals the New … much is forshadowed in the Old that did not have fufillment for thousands of years.

Intrepretation, IMO, must reconcile with the whole of Scripture both Old and New. Indeed, Christ did make many references to the Old … as did the Gospel writers.

I find it fascinating that the greater understanding of the Old crystalizes the New … I am not as familiar with the Old but where I do study the Old it brings greater understanding of the New

 

[jkarp]

I agree … the Old reveals the New … much is forshadowed in the Old that did not have fufillment for thousands of years.

Intrepretation, IMO, must reconcile with the whole of Scripture both Old and New. Indeed, Christ did make many references to the Old … as did the Gospel writers.

I find it fascinating that the greater understanding of the Old crystalizes the New … I am not as familiar with the Old but where I do study the Old it brings greater understanding of the New

That’s a really great way of saying it. After all, didn’t Christ Himself say, “I come not to destroy the law, but to fulfill it,” (or something very close to that)?

 

[juliamajor]

I don’t want this to fall into a John 6 literal vs. symbolic discussion but rather why Catholics do see this in a different light than non-Catholics.

Part of this disagreement comes from the way Catholics interpret the Bible … as a whole … not piecemeal.

I would like people to post and discuss some Eucharistic typology found in the Bible … that lead to a particular interpretation of John 6. Catholics should post passages that support theirs and non-Catholics should use other Scripture that “types” their understanding … I will throw one out to begin this.

Luke 2:7, “and she gave birth to her firstborn son. She wrapped him in swaddling clothes and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.”

I submit the little word “manger” types what Catholics believe. A manger is a feeding trough … where animals come to get their food. Christ is laid in the manger for what … to be eaten … not just but Luke says Christ was not laid in a crib, the floor, on straw or in His mother’s lap but a feeding trough. Just a small piece of the puzzle.

Try this site for typologyhttp://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/scrip/a6.html

 

[st_felicity]

Off the top of my head…

…in the Garden of Eden man was to eat from the Tree of Life in the center of the garden.

…the lamb that was sacrificed in Egypt to allow the Angel of Death to pass over was eaten.

…the “show bread” --also called the “Bread of the Presence” was in the temple and was eaten by the priests.

…manna in the wilderness.

…The priest of Salem, Melchizedek offered bread and wine.

…in the NT, not only was Christ laid in a manger, but Bethlehem means “House of Bread.”

…Miracle of the loaves and fishes…

 

[ncgolf]

Any non-Catholics have any typology to support their view?

 

[ncgolf]

…the lamb that was sacrificed in Egypt to allow the Angel of Death to pass over was eaten.

An unblemished lamb too boot … and the ritual had to be followed …no deviation or inventing your own ritual. Ring any bells?

As Scott Hahn once said … no lamb shaped cookies would have sufficed.

 

[st_felicity]

An unblemished lamb too boot … and the ritual had to be followed …no deviation or inventing your own ritual. Ring any bells?

As Scott Hahn once said … no lamb shaped cookies would have sufficed.

Ringing bells…You made a funny!