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Yes, we all know how tolerant Muslims are towards religious minorities:
Convert to Islam,
Or submit as dhimmis,
Or die.

Seems very tolerant to me. Clap. Clap. Clap.
 
I chose some representative countries. The fact of the matter is, most Catholic nations are in Africa or South America, and they are mostly disaster zones. Indonesia, Yemen, and Pakistan are at least as well off as some of the better South American states. Afghanistan and Sudan are no worse than Rwanda and Colombia.

i will not entertain your turning round the bush. From the lion’s mouth:

President Musharraf said: "Today we are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most unenlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race." The Muslim Ummah, or the Islamic world, he said was largely "living in darkness."

Enough said .
How convenient. You take secular, non-Christian regimes populated mostly by protestants (that is what most “western nations” are), and call them Catholic.
 
Exactly! We live in a society where people have free will, something else that Islam’s “god” denies! Christianity did not cause secularism, it’s caused by people exercising their free will and rejecting the teachings of Christianity to become their own “little gods”.

Vickie
This isn’t exactly true. When we live for God we are actually exercising our free will that Christ brought back to us through His Incarnation, suffering, death, and resurrection. By living the option of death we have chosen in a way but we have chosen to continue to live the “culture of death” that dominates those not baptized.

CDL
 
Excellent posts, Gregory!

This is how Muslims start taking over:

news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=603

Think of a small city in a western country. Three moderate Muslims have just moved in; two have families and the third person is single. They seem very social and the last time they visited your home, two of them drank bottles of beer without hesitation. The single guy repeatedly confirmed the importance of religious tolerance and quoted a gem from the Quran, ‘There is no compulsion in religion’.

Five years later, the single person returns home and brings back a pious wife, and more relatives join the other two families. Though only a few seem religious, they solicit others to fast and pray five times a day. Every Friday, they get together in one of the houses and discuss religion extensively. Fasting becomes a social decorum and they all gather in one of their houses by rotation to enjoy iftar (breaking the fast).

Another five years pass by. Now there are about 1000 Muslims in town. They have created their own mosque, which plays a significant role in uniting all Muslims. So far, there is no report of any violence but hatred for the host country and loyalty to Ummah are preached, practiced and celebrated. The guy who drank beer with you 10 years ago now only eats halal food. You have not seen him lately and the last time you talked to him, you felt an imaginary barrier has grown between you two.

Within the next 10 years, 10% of the city’s population become Muslims. There have been a few incidences of violence including honor killing, rape and a violent protest against a newspaper that dared to ask if Islam is a religion of peace. Most of the Muslims do their banking with Islamic banks, though these banks are losing concerns and surviving on subsidy money from Saudi Arabia. Muslims demand that halal food should be served in the school for all students, Muslim women must be allowed to wear the Hijab or Burkha, even if it is for a driving license, and their mosques should be allowed to use microphones and scream five times a day.

After 15 years, the situation changes abruptly. Now the number of Muslims has increased to 30% of the population. There are several politicians who represent Muslims. They make laws, safeguarding Islam and its culture, and critiquing Islam becomes taboo. Several newspapers and TV stations are owned by Muslims who continuously preach Islam and openly degrade other religions. Non-Muslims are often harassed verbally for their idiotic faith, or having no faith. The guy who had a few drinks with you 35 years ago just performed the annual Haj (Islamic pilgrimage) and is more serious about Islam than ever before. In fact, in a recent talk with him, he clearly pitied your religion and invited you to embrace Islam. The consequence of not becoming a Muslim is not pretty at all, as he gave a graphic description of hell that would grill your body. He also hopes that soon Muslims will be able to implement ‘Jizya Tax’ on the ‘People of the book’, and get rid of all non-religious people and idol worshippers. Apparently, he could not remember that he talked about ‘No compulsion in religion’ 35 years ago.

What will happen after 20 years, when Muslims will comprise 51% of the population?

WAKE UP, AMERICA!
i could never have said it better:thumbsup:
 
I remember walking from Israel over to Samaria. The Muslim areas were obviously the most backward. Despite all the money that was poured into the area and all the oil money the Gulf States have it is still a mess.
 
Your Muslim neighbors need for you all to stop this hate mongering.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2488829.stm
Hate crimes against Arabs and Muslims in the United States increased by 1,700% in 2001, according to crime statistics compiled by the FBI.
The hate crimes included the murder of at least three people.
Balbir Singh Sodhi, a 49-year-old Sikh and father of three, was killed as he planted flowers at his gas station four days after the 11 September attacks.
Police said that the alleged killer bragged at a local bar that he was going to “kill the ragheads responsible for 11 September”.
 
I don’t know the solution to inter-communal strife. Perhaps CAIR should issue less denials and apologetics, less playing the victim card, less suing the pants of every critic of Islam and then maybe people will see the ‘good’ side of Islam.

Positive image is very important. As it is, the average American sees only the ‘negative’ side of Islam, and there is such a lot of negativity to Islam.

I think the short-term solution would be for those Muslims living in America to exercise their democratic right to move to somewhere safer - perhaps Pakistan.
 
Serbs spread terror in the name of Greater Serbia.
That’s true. Congradulations for this good observation. I will also like to add further that being Serb equals to be Orthodox Christian, and Serb nationalism equals Orthodox fundamentalism. This is true in every Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox country, where fascism is very popular.

In Russia, Serbia and Greece, we, Catholic Christians and our evangelical Protestant brethren are not considered Russians, Serbs and Greeks but rather foreigners by the Russian, Serb or Greek nationalists who insist that membership in the Orthodox Church qualifies you for Russian, Serb or Greek ethnicity.

The Patriarchs of the Orthodox Church in Russia, Serbia and Greece have declared a Holy War against Catholicism, Protestantism, Judaism and Islam.

The Yugoslavia war began when His Holiness Pavle, who is also the de facto dictator of Serbia annointed Slobodan Milosevic as “Most Blessed Csar” and directed him to outlaw worship rites for Catholics, Protestants, Jews and Muslims.

Catholics may forgive the Serbs but we should not forget that these Serb Orthodox fundamentalists committed genocide on Albanian Christians and destroyed many Albanian Catholic churches and built Serb Orthodox churches on top of them. This was done for a bid for a Greatern Serbia, an Orthodox theocratic dictatorship.

Praise be to Jesus our Lord that the Catholic-Muslim-Jew alliance called Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) along with the Catholic-led NATO air force fought the Serb Orthodox fundamentalists, defeated them and expuled them from Kosovo.

As you can see not every Muslim is bad. There are many good Muslims who are Zionists such as the Kosovo Liberation Army. They love both Catholics and Jews. These good Muslims along with the Catholic-led NATO attacked the so-called “Christian” Yugoslavia because the Serb Orthodox Church were hostile to Catholic nation, Israel by refusing to recognise Israel as a legal nation but rather considered them an occupying force of Palestine. Strange that Serbs occupied Yugoslavia but were unaware of that! God hates hypocrisy and he punished the Serbs severely.
 
Your Muslim neighbors need for you all to stop this hate mongering.
Your Muslim neighbors need for you all to stop this hate mongering.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2488829.stm

Quote:Hate crimes against Arabs and Muslims in the United States increased by 1,700% in 2001, according to crime statistics compiled by the FBI.

Quote:The hate crimes included the murder of at least three people.

Balbir Singh Sodhi, a 49-year-old Sikh and father of three, was killed as he planted flowers at his gas station four days after the 11 September attacks.

Police said that the alleged killer bragged at a local bar that he was going to “kill the ragheads responsible for 11 September”.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2488829.stm
Why are you talking about a Sikh?
 
Your Muslim neighbors need for you all to stop this hate mongering.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2488829.stm
So it’s a “hate crime” only when a Muslim is killed!

It doesn’t matter that Muslims are killing unbelievers every day proving that Islam is not and never has been a religion of peace! When they do it, it’s for “Allah” and they’re just ridding the world of a dirty kaffir, correct?

Your double standards are unbelievable!
 
Pro,

You can say all you want about muslims and how we should have some sort of sympathy toward them. Maybe in another country. You talk about the poor man who was planting flowers at his gas station just after the 911 attacks, yet I will tell you about the nun who was shot to death, just after our Pope’s harmless speech of a quote. And what about for every killing a non-muslim does, there are 500 a muslim does.
 
Since many of Pro’s posts make so little sense do his actions qualify him as a troll? I’m just asking.

CDL
 
Lets say this is all going to happen. Whats the solution? I doubt that people being aware will be enough.

-D
The Bl. Mother has said in Fatima that war is punishment for sins …and she has offered or reminded us the time honored ways to turn back to God …

the need pray ( and thus be able to break off the satanic bondages of sexual immorality and such that is at flood levels in our times !)…need to do penance …which concievably would include following the church guidelines in areas such as support of life and familes and children …

And hopefully enough persons , yearning for unity in The Church …

It is often astounding to see the extent of the animosity amongst so called believers …that one is left to wonder about these persons , carrying the power of the Holy Mysteries and holding such hatred and unforgiveness …could that be truly the magma that feed spreading mess!

May the Breath of The Spirit , blow off the sand from the eyes and hearts of enough, to see clearly where the real danger is !
 
The Bl. Mother has said in Fatima
Has this appearance been approved by the CC?
Or, stretching this, is there a list somewhere of the accepted appearances of Mary by the CC? (I read somewhere that Medjugorje for example has not been acknowleged yet)

Thanks!
Pax.
 
Pro,

You can say all you want about muslims and how we should have some sort of sympathy toward them. Maybe in another country. You talk about the poor man who was planting flowers at his gas station just after the 911 attacks, yet I will tell you about the nun who was shot to death, just after our Pope’s harmless speech of a quote. And what about for every killing a non-muslim does, there are 500 a muslim does.
Interesting. So you don’t think it’s justifiable to oppose or speak out against hate crimes against Muslims in the US?

The claim was made that other societies don’t attack Muslims. I posted proof to the contrary.
 
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