Euthanasia is ok. Person should have the right to die.

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As someone who works in the health care field and has a desire to get into palliative care I cannot tell you how much I absolutely despise euthanasia. It is murder. Plain and simple. No one has a “right” to die. There’s no such thing as “death with dignity”. The aim of palliative care is to “live with dignity while dying”.

Where is the dignity in being killed? In being so devalued that people who profess to love you and want to care for you think that sticking poison into your veins is loving? Is merciful? It wasn’t that long ago a certain political party deemed sticking the mentally ill in the back of a truck and gassing them with the CO2 and called that “mercy”.

I consider euthanasia to be worse then abortion, and I friggin’ hate abortion!

With the foetus, there really isn’t any external relationship development, the foetus is only really real to the mother and the abortionists, others outside the mother may grieve the foetus’ loss, but at the end of the day, there’s really no relationship so to speak of. But with euthanasia, that is someone’s mother, father, brother, sister, husband, wife, they’re a friend, a person with many many relationships and social connections, and the only thing people who “love” them think they can do to help them is to kill them? How is that mercy? How is that dignified? To be devalued and murdered by the ones who are supposed to love you?

Whenever I hear a story about someone who is suffering from some awful terminal disease and are in “pain” and want to die, I have to ask, who’s in charge of their palliative care? What pain medications are they on? Becuase there is a raft of options available, both pharmacological and alternative. Killing isn’t health care, it isn’t pallative care, its bloody murder!

Not to mention, look at the mess abortion turned out to be, it was supposed to be “safe, legal and rare”, now we have 1.2 million a year in the USA alone, over 52 million dead since Roe. There’s partial birth abortion (probably despite the ban, who’s going around looking in the bins outside of clinics to check for holes in the back of foeti’ skulls?) There’s the sale of foetus’ body parts, and experimentation on their skin by cosmetic companies, women are forced into abortions and children can get abortions without parental knowledge.

Society made a mess with abortion. How long will it take before “legal euthanasia” turns a mandatory retirement age into a mandatory euthanasia age, how long before its dolled out for a chronic illness, or a mental illness, or for children born with cleft palates or downs syndrome? These things are happening in the Netherlands. Not to mention how hypocritical it is, how many millions have been spent on campaigns to tell teens “don’t kill yourself, your life means something” and then turn around and add “oh, but if you’ve got terminal cancer or Alzheimers, your life is worth about 1/5th of jack sh1t”.

Abortion took out 1/3rd of a generation, how many will euthanasia take out? Though it is fiscally logical, you can’t wipe out 1/3rd of a generation and expect 2/3rds to support 3/3rds of the older generation who are living longer.

This is one heck of a slippery slope we’d do well to avoid.
 
*What are they saying about euthanasia?*Richard M. Gula, S.S., Paulist Press, U.S.A., 1986 ISBN 0-8091-2766-0

*“This book integrates into a survey those who have made significant contributions to the moral issues and its discussion pertaining to euthanasia…as well as the position of the Vatican Declaration on Euthanasia.” *

“Richard M. Gula, S.S. is associate professor of moral theology at St Patrick’s Seminary…California.”
 
+***Advocation of the grave mortal sin of murder as the subject of a discussion thread on a Christian Catholic Forum! ***The subject line of this thread is absolutely 😊 apalling . . .

:bible1: 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is placed among our members, which defileth the whole body, and inflameth the wheel of our nativity, being set on fire by hell. 7 For every nature of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of the rest, is tamed, and hath been tamed, by the nature of man: 8 But the tongue no man can tame, an unquiet evil, full of deadly poison. 9 By it we bless God and the Father: and by it we curse men, **who are made after the likeness of God. **10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. James 3:6-10

This unholy subject line just invites Satan in all his ghastly unholy boldness to come romping right in with all his unholy murderous glee at this stated and broadcast supposed allowance for advocation of the abominable Culture of Death and its unholy murderous ways . . . which come from the lowest pit of Satanic hell . . . inciting prideful disobedience to the Holy Commandment of God quoted below from God’s Infallible Holy :bible1: Word . . . may** GOD** . . . FOR:signofcross:BID . . . that any word of the deceitful death-loving-accepting words expressed in the subject line and in parts of this thread take root in any soul in contact with this thread . . . GOD help us all . . . discussion of the evil of euthanasia in our world today is one thing . . . advocating the horrific evil of murder is quite another . . .
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    "Seek NOT death in the error of your life,
    neither procure ye destruction
    by the works of your hands.
    For
    GOD
    made NOT death,
    neither hath He pleasure
    in the destruction of the living."
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Euthanasia is a sickening thing. We do not have the right to choose when will die. If a person chooses to get euthanized, it is the same as committing suicide in my opinion.
 
Euthanasia is more complicated than a black and white, yes and no response. Science has progressed so far it is possible to keep a person alive beyond the call of nature. Withdrawal of medical aid is classified as euthanasia.
We need to promote life but how far? And to what extent?
Analgesia (for example, morphine) are used to hasten death. Relatives are told “It takes the pain away.”
Lavender baths are used to suppress breathing, resulting in asphyxiation. Relatives are delighted by the smell.
Both are forms of euthanasia. I am not advocating their usage.
 
Euthanasia is more complicated than a black and white, yes and no response. Science has progressed so far it is possible to keep a person alive beyond the call of nature. Withdrawal of medical aid is classified as euthanasia.
We need to promote life but how far? And to what extent?
Analgesia (for example, morphine) are used to hasten death. Relatives are told “It takes the pain away.”
Lavender baths are used to suppress breathing, resulting in asphyxiation. Relatives are delighted by the smell.
Both are forms of euthanasia. I am not advocating their usage.
The Church clearly teaches, until natural death. Euthanasis is assisted murder, nothing more. The mental state of the patient needs to be taken into consideration. I don’t want to be an accessory to anybody’s death.

Peace,
Ed
 
The Church clearly teaches, until natural death. Euthanasis is assisted murder, nothing more. The mental state of the patient needs to be taken into consideration. I don’t want to be an accessory to anybody’s death.
Peace,
Ed
How does the Church define “natural death”?
What are the limits we should place on compassion? On alleviating pain?
Your post implies consent/co-operation of the client. What does the Church teach on treatment of the unconscious?
Living Wills can be, and are, overridden.

If we have treatment available to keep a client alive and we fail to use it is this euthanasia? Theoretically yes.
 
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