Evangelical Christians Must Stand Against Drafting Women Into Combat, IRD Says

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The Institute on Religion & Democracy has called on evangelicals, Catholics, and all Christians to stand together against proposals, backed by a number of Republican presidential candidates, to draft women into combat roles should the need arise.
“Christian leaders should oppose conscripting women into the military. Not only evangelicals, but also Catholics and Christian pacifists should speak out. Can the Church be silent about the potentially coercive militarization of America’s daughters?” asked IRD’s Evangelical Action Director Chelsen Vicari.
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Waynec said:
Why?

There are so many women trying to prove that they are as good as if not better than men so why not let them be drafted the same as the men?

I don’t beleive that women belong fighting side by side with men in combat but what do I know? I wouldn’t like it at all. Now I am going to have a bunch of feminists yelling at me. So be it.
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So…my four daughters should be available for the draft because of a particularly coarse form of feminism? They have done nothing to deserve such callous disregard. Nor have most young ladies.

My sons will register; the oldest already has. My brothers went to Southeast Asia at the request of the government, years ago. That’s as much as should be asked, IMHO.
 
Kind of late in the game. If they didn’t speak out when women were allowed / forced into being accepted in combat roles, they have little ground to stand on for denying they should be drafted.
 
My grandfather was drafted in 1951 to the Army during the Korean War. He received his draft notice the day he and my grandmother returned home from their honeymoon. Within two weeks of marriage he was in basic training and shipped overseas for two years.

That part isn’t (name removed by moderator)ortant to the topic at hand, even though it did essentially doom them to 50 years of unhappy marriage. What is important was that he was sent to Okinawa to work as a supply clerk. He never saw action, thank goodness. But the island was crawling with important support staff. It seems to me that a woman would do just as well as he did filing papers and driving a truck. So why can’t they be drafted for roles like this?
 
What about those with children? Aren’t mothers considered essential for the well being and positive development in the lives of their children anymore. I know a lot of Dads who would do well full time with kids but didn’t God have different roles for men and women in mind when he created them male and female?

Mary
 
I don’t have a problem specifically with women being drafted. If anything I have a problem with anyone being drafted. But if women are going to be given the vote then they need to be forced to sacrifice like men are. To some it may seem odd, though it shouldn’t, but I think women’s suffrage has been associated with less peace and more and worse violence. If women knew they might have to die in the wars they support there might be more peace.
 
I think ALL kids should serve for two years, both men and women. Israeli women serve as a matter of everyday life. 😃
 
exnihilo said:
I don’t have a problem specifically with women being drafted. If anything I have a problem with anyone being drafted. But if women are going to be given the vote then they need to be forced to sacrifice like men are. To some it may seem odd, though it shouldn’t, but I think women’s suffrage has been associated with less peace and more and worse violence. If women knew they might have to die in the wars they support there might be more peace.
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LOL! Given the vote 90 years ago.
 
Waynec said:
Tablefor9;13655638:
So…my four daughters should be available for the draft because of a particularly coarse form of feminism?

Harsh words.

You mean your daughters wouldn’t want the honor of defending their country along with their brothers?
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That was my reaction. I’d be worried of course, but proud if my daughter chose to serve her country in whatever capacity she wanted to pursue.
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MaryT777 said:
What about those with children? Aren’t mothers considered essential for the well being and positive development in the lives of their children anymore. I know a lot of Dads who would do well full time with kids but didn’t God have different roles for men and women in mind when he created them male and female?

Mary
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I may not remember 100% correctly, but I believe if you were a parent (Dad at the time), you were no longer eligible to be drafted.

I’m fine with it, but honestly what is the chance this would ever happen? Combat roles make up such a small percentage of our armed forces now, I just don’t see how we’d ever get to the point to actually have to draft again.

My .02
 
TC3033 said:
I may not remember 100% correctly, but I believe if you were a parent (Dad at the time), you were no longer eligible to be drafted.

I’m fine with it, but honestly what is the chance this would ever happen? Combat roles make up such a small percentage of our armed forces now, I just don’t see how we’d ever get to the point to actually have to draft again.

My .02
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Thanks and good point. My Mother wanted to be in the National Guard and she was 1/2 way through the process to begin basic training and the rule came out no single parents which she was. That was long ago though.

Mary.
 
Who knows The Chronicles of those times hid as much as they illuminated.
 
MaryT777 said:
What about those with children? Aren’t mothers considered essential for the well being and positive development in the lives of their children anymore. I know a lot of Dads who would do well full time with kids but didn’t God have different roles for men and women in mind when he created them male and female?

Mary
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This is my concern.
I am opposed to a mandatory draft for women.
I have no problem with voluntary service on the part of women but
there are real differences between men and women that do not in
any way make women “inferior:” but there are differences.
And here’s one thing many people have not thought of:
It can take just a few males, even older males, to repopulate a village, if need be.
But most fertile women can only bear maybe 10-12 children throughout her lifetime and only that if she starts young. A woman’s prime fertility is between ages 18-30.
So a good way to wipe out a population would be to kill off young fertile women in combat.
I wouldn’t have as much of a problem is say, in a national emergency, all young people were drafted with the females staying mainly in non-combat, or office or other roles, but sorry I am opposed to women in combat- at least on a mandatory basis.
Also, this is not even mentioning the disparities in strength, stamina, and the fact that the enemy would likely have no problem sexually assaulting a female captive.
 
Vanny said:
This is my concern.
I am opposed to a mandatory draft for women.
I have no problem with voluntary service on the part of women but
there are real differences between men and women that do not in
any way make women “inferior:” but there are differences.
And here’s one thing many people have not thought of:
It can take just a few males, even older males, to repopulate a village, if need be.
But most fertile women can only bear maybe 10-12 children throughout her lifetime and only that if she starts young. A woman’s prime fertility is between ages 18-30.
So a good way to wipe out a population would be to kill off young fertile women in combat.
I wouldn’t have as much of a problem is say, in a national emergency, all young people were drafted with the females staying mainly in non-combat, or office or other roles, but sorry I am opposed to women in combat- at least on a mandatory basis.
Also, this is not even mentioning the disparities in strength, stamina, and the fact that the enemy would likely have no problem sexually assaulting a female captive.
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I don’t think we need to worry about young women being killed in war and not being able to bear children to repopulate the world. Here in America young women of child bearing age kill their babies in the womb. At the tune of 1 million a year. Go figure!
 
Waynec said:
Tablefor9;13655638:
So…my four daughters should be available for the draft because of a particularly coarse form of feminism?

Harsh words.

You mean your daughters wouldn’t want the honor of defending their country along with their brothers?
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I don’t think it’s harsh to say that my girls want the honor of teaching the next generation of Christians and building a culture of charity and grace, not to be blown up by an IED while their mom raises their kids.

IMHO the statement “well they should have said something before” is disingenuous, because my girls (ages 9-13–just old enough for this to hit home for me) had no part in the discussion. I have said something, repeatedly, about the fact that I don’t believe women should be in combat; there are plenty of good reasons why not, but let’s start with the fact that you don’t send moms and potential moms out to be enemy targets.

The failure of men in this country to stand as protectors of their moms/sisters/wives may be a bitter reaction against some virulent forms of feminism, but it’s no less disgusting. I still teach my sons to open doors for ladies and walk on the street side. They don’t want their sisters going off to die for them; I wish others were as considerate.
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