Evangelicals don't have valid marriage?

[EvangelistVictor]

The Catholic Church teaches only those married in the Catholic church have a valid marriage in the eyes of God. So where does that put millions of Evangelicals? They fornicators going to hell?

 

[mrsdizzyd]

The Catholic Church teaches only those married in the Catholic church have a valid marriage in the eyes of God.

No, it does not.

 

[EvangelistVictor]

No, it does not.

Then why aren’t they allowed communion if they’ve returned to the Catholic Church, already been baptized and confirmed earlier in life?

 

[Wesrock]

The Catholic Church teaches only those married in the church have a valid marriage in the eyes of God. So where does that put millions of Evangelicals? They fornicators going to hell?

Only those baptized or recieved into the Catholic Church are required by canon law to be married in the Church (or otherwise have dispensation, and assuming there are clergy available). Non-Catholic Christians can enter into valid sacramental marriages on their own outside the Church. Even non-Christians can enter into valid natural marriages. The Church still sees only first marriages as valid.

However, on top of that, the Church’s teaching on mortal sin requires the sinner to have full knowledge and make deliberate consent when committing a sin that is grave matter in order for a sin to be mortal.

 

[mrsdizzyd]

mrsdizzyd:

No, it does not.

Then why aren’t they allowed communion if they’ve returned to the Catholic Church, already been baptized and confirmed earlier in life?

You mean only baptized CATHOLICS.

Your marriage would need to be regularized. It’s the sacramental nature of your marriage that is called into question.

 

[phil19034]

The Catholic Church teaches only those married in the Catholic church have a valid marriage in the eyes of God. So where does that put millions of Evangelicals? They fornicators going to hell?

This is incorrect. The Catholic Church believes that Protestants have valid Marriages. We recognize the two Sacraments as valid from
Protestants - Baptism and Matrimony.

The Church considers all marriages valid unless their is just cause to question the validity of the marriage.

The Latin Church believes that the bride and groom are the ministers of their own wedding and that the priest or deacon simply administer it.

The reason a Catholic marrying outside the Church (unless a dispensation was granted) is invalid is because it when a Catholic marries outside the Church, it provides just cause to believe that the individual Catholic does not believe in marriage the same way as the Church. Therefore, potentially meaning that the Catholic did not properly enter into a sacramental marriage.

I pray this makes sense.

 

[EvangelistVictor]

You mean only baptized CATHOLICS.

Your marriage would need to be regularized. It’s the sacramental nature of your marriage that is called into question

So it better to just stay Evangelical then, because you can’t force one of the spouses to do a Sacrament they don’t believe in if one of them is still Evangelical.

 

[mrsdizzyd]

mrsdizzyd:

You mean only baptized CATHOLICS.

Your marriage would need to be regularized. It’s the sacramental nature of your marriage that is called into question

So it better to just stay Evangelical then, because you can’t force one of the spouses to do a Sacrament they don’t believe in if one of them is still Evangelical.

Victor, I would not make that leap.

Talk to your priest.

 

[Allegra]

If a convert enters the Church, their marriage is presumed valid, assuming neither partner was ever Catholic or married before.

 

[EvangelistVictor]

Well I’ve heard one is considered not in a state of grace because he wasn’t married in the CC.

 

[phil19034]

mrsdizzyd:

You mean only baptized CATHOLICS.

Your marriage would need to be regularized. It’s the sacramental nature of your marriage that is called into question

So it better to just stay Evangelical then, because you can’t force one of the spouses to do a Sacrament they don’t believe in if one of them is still Evangelical.

Huh???

A Catholic can easily marry a non-Catholic in non-Catholic wedding.

All they have to do is receive a dispensation (which is pretty easy today’s modern communications) and still do pre-Cana. All they have to do is simply talk with a priest.

 

[BoomBoomMancini]

Either the person who told you that was mistaken, or you misunderstood what they were saying.

 

[mrsdizzyd]

Does this article help?

What Can I Do about My Invalid Marriage? | Catholic Answers Q&A

It says that a marriage can still be validated even if the non-Catholic spouse is unwilling. Read it then talk to your priest.

 

[USAFwife]

I’m converting, and my husband is not religious and is not converting. I will still get the sacraments and everything. I won’t get the sacrament of marriage, but after our convalidation it will be recognized as blessed? Valid? I don’t remember the exact word.

 

[phil19034]

Well I’ve heard one is considered not in a state of grace because he wasn’t married in the CC.

If a Catholic marries outside the Catholic Church without a dispensation, then the Church assumes that the Catholic doesn’t properly understand the Sacarment of Matrimony and therefore never entered into a Sacarmental Marriage.

That’s why.

Assuming neither is divorced (without annulment), then it’s relatively easy for an invalidly married Catholic to have his/her marriage validated in the Catholic Church. The Couple (together) has a convalidation cermony with the priest or the Catholic (with or without his/her non-Catholic spouse) receives a Radical Sanation from the bishop.

I had a Radical Sanation when I returned to the Church because my non-Catholic wife did not want to go though a convalidation ceremony.

God Bless

 

[Wesrock]

There are additional graces that come with being in a sacramental marriage (hence why it is a sacrament), but non-sacramental marriages between non-Christians can still be valid and a naturally good union.

 

[phil19034]

I’m converting, and my husband is not religious and is not converting. I will still get the sacraments and everything. I won’t get the sacrament of marriage, but after our convalidation it will be recognized as blessed? Valid? I don’t remember the exact word.

If you husband is a baptized Christian, then you will receive the sacrament of matrimony during your convalidation.

If you husband is not a validly baptized Christian, then your marriage will be a valid natural marriage.

Having the marriage “blessed” by the Church is an informal saying.

God Bless

 

[USAFwife]

@phil19034 Yes, valid natural marriage. I couldn’t remember. I’ve been swimming in Excel spreadsheets all day and my brain is mush.

 

[Vico]

The Catholic Church teaches only those married in the Catholic church have a valid marriage in the eyes of God. So where does that put millions of Evangelicals? They fornicators going to hell?

Catholic teaching is that there are two types of marriage (natural and sacramental) and that a Catholic is bound to the form of marriage approved by the Catholic Church for validity. A Catholic cannot marry without the approval of the Church. Sacramental marriage is only between two validly baptized, so that a Catholic with a dispensation from the Catholic Church may enter a natural marriage. Other non-Catholics are not bound to follow the Catholic form of marriage to be recognized but do need to give proper consent.

 

[EvangelistVictor]

But can such a person receive the eucharist, in a non-sacramental marriage? I heard they cannot, even though baptized, and have their 1st communion.