Evangelist Pat Robertson: Islamic Radicals Might Be the ‘Best Thing That Ever Happened to the World’

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Seamus_L said:
I think radical Islam is flourishing due to the growth of decadent Western secularism.
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I think radical Islam is growing due to the lukewarm state of Christians. Add that to the contracepting secularists and the Muslims are out breeding europe and the us. If christians refuse to stand up and proclaim Jesus Christ, we have no one to blame but ourselves. God chastised the Jews with many different nations including Babylon. We are being chastised by the same region again. Nothing new under the sun.
 
Seamus_L said:
I think radical Islam is flourishing due to the growth of decadent Western secularism.
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,and the growth of passivity among Christians in Europe and North America. Our grandparents would not have been shocked at the multiple evils hitting the world, but they would have been shocked at how feeble the response from Christians to those evils.
 
rfournier103 said:
You’re right.

We’re soft. They know it.
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Yes and some have said the moderate Muslims may see this and be encouraged that perhaps this is the time to get off the fence and support jihad.It has a snowball effect. They will get on a winning wagon. After all, it (world domination) is an eventual happening anyway according to even peaceful Muslims.
 
benhur said:
Yes and some have said the moderate Muslims may see this and be encouraged that perhaps this is the time to get off the fence and support jihad.It has a snowball effect. They will get on a winning wagon. After all, it (world domination) is an eventual happening anyway according to even peaceful Muslims.
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That is EXACTLY the way it works and with gay marriage, shows on t.v. like “I am Cait” & “I am Jaz”…
…Our enemies can see the evidence we are ripe for whatever they intend to do to us.
…Our society is on self destruct mode, period!
 
I have to wonder if Pat Robertson is not losing his mental faculties.
 
benhur said:
Yes and some have said the moderate Muslims may see this and be encouraged that perhaps this is the time to get off the fence and support jihad.It has a snowball effect. They will get on a winning wagon. After all, it (world domination) is an eventual happening anyway according to even peaceful Muslims.
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Oh, sure. Just like the IRA made moderate Catholics want to go bomb a car in front of a British department store or the New York Macy’s. Those car bombings might have gotten Irish nationals stirred up with some “winning wagon” nonsense, but if it got moderate Catholics “off the fence,” it was to get them off the fence of not criticizing fellow Catholics who had a rightful charge of oppression to make against their government.
 
EasterJoy said:
I have to wonder if Pat Robertson is not losing his mental faculties.
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I think I understood what he meant, but it was rather ghoulish if you ask me, i.e, it would be like saying Nazism (because ISIS is no less evil, and possibly more so) was the best thing to happen to the world in order to see how evil atheist man-made ideologies are.
 
josie_L said:
I think I understood what he meant, but it was rather ghoulish if you ask me, i.e, it would be like saying Nazism (because ISIS is no less evil, and possibly more so) was the best thing to happen to the world in order to see how evil atheist man-made ideologies are.
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I don’t just mean this one statement. I mean from listening to him talk, generally. It does not take many sentences before I start to wonder if he’s still all there. It can happen to any of us, if we live long enough.
 
No one with a heart for the victims and their families can say it’s the “best thing”. It’s a horrible thing.
However…
I might reword Robertson and say this is the best, or clearest, indicator of a reality that is usually heavily cloaked in public relations. I want to say nobody in their right mind could ignore or minimize the actions we are seeing. But passivity has risen to such a high level in Europe and America, especially among Catholics, that I can only hope most people can’t ignore such blatant evil.

I read a book published by a university I thought was Catholic. But reading further, the book was actually published not exactly by the whole university, but by a subdivision, an Islamic Studies Center, relying on outside funding, that somebody chose to base at that “Catholic” university, using it as a platform for credibility. Wonder why they chose to base it there?

How much of the information we get is filtered or the danger watered down - sometimes by the Media, which supports anything anti-Christian; or by liberal Christians, who bend over backwards to avoid being pro-Christian or pro-American; or by indirectly funded information programs, that have an agenda? The radicals apparently don’t consult with their public relations people. They may be somewhat different, but not that different, from a much larger group. How many stories are not being printed or aired, because a reporter is afraid of getting killed, or a news bureau fears their office being bombed?

I keep thinking of the Lord of the Rings, the early part where Saruman cautions not to over react, let’s not be hasty, the evil is not as strong as you think it is, let’s just keep our eyes open…wait…
 
I think he’s coming from the perspective that these acts we witness on the news are not “extreme” or radical acts - they are simply FUNDAMENTAL Islam…
…I would agree with the other posters here who say what Robertson said or better put the way he said it was tone deaf.
…He could have got the same idea across without saying it the way he did.
 
Pythons said:
I think he’s coming from the perspective that these acts we witness on the news are not “extreme” or radical acts - they are simply FUNDAMENTAL Islam…
…I would agree with the other posters here who say what Robertson said or better put the way he said it was tone deaf.
…He could have got the same idea across without saying it the way he did.
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Well, ok. How he said it was clumsy, inarticulate, and insensitive. But the problem is not so much that his clumsiness, but that almost all the articulate and sensitive leaders are choosing to be silent. In that context, the clumsy speaker may be better than nothing.
 
It’s difficult for even the most articate to say something true these days when the truth happens to conflict with political correctness. I agree with you - it’s better P.R, said something than it would be for no one to,
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Well, ok. How he said it was clumsy, inarticulate, and insensitive. But the problem is not so much that his clumsiness, but that almost all the articulate and sensitive leaders are choosing to be silent. In that context, the clumsy speaker may be better than nothing.
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Zooey said:
I have thought this for some time now…He was never overwhelming coherent, but he gets worse every time he says*** anything***.
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Zooey? :eek: Is that you? 👍
We haven’t seen you in a coon’s age (whatever that is).
How’s CAF’s favorite Methodist doing? 🙂
 
There are certainly “elements” within Islam that are compatible / praise worthy, etc…
…But these types of statements are qualified in the Koran to apply to only those Christians, Jews & others.
…Who from a theological standpoint - are Muslim .

The Koran is very explicit that Christians and Jews are “people of the Book” & are to be treated with respect…
…PROVIDED that those same people accept & promulgate the rubrics of Islam.

Thus, it’s irrelevant that a person here or there in the United States condemns Islamic acts of violence against other people…
…Those same people wouldn’t last a week in an Islamic State saying the things they are saying here.

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser is a CLASSIC EXAMPLE of a peace loving / kind to other religions Muslim…
…Dr. Jasser will be the first to tell you the Islam he practices is alien to the Islam of the majority of Muslims.

aifdemocracy.org/

The Church isn’t “endorsing Islam” in those positive things it mentions…
…It simply is telling the truth that there are SOME good things within Islam.
 
EasterJoy said:
Oh, sure. Just like the IRA made moderate Catholics want to go bomb a car in front of a British department store or the New York Macy’s. Those car bombings might have gotten Irish nationals stirred up with some “winning wagon” nonsense, but if it got moderate Catholics “off the fence,” it was to get them off the fence of not criticizing fellow Catholics who had a rightful charge of oppression to make against their government.
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HI EJ

It is not the action of radicals that may make Muslim moderates “re-evaluate”, but the reaction of those who have been challenged by their actions.

Also not apples to oranges. Nothing in the bible that says Ireland will be totally sovereign or not. The Koran says the entire world will be under under one caliphate someday and Muslims are to strive for that by many methods including jihad depending on ever changing “circumstances”.

Blessings
 
JustaServant said:
Zooey? :eek: Is that you? 👍
We haven’t seen you in a coon’s age (whatever that is).
How’s CAF’s favorite Methodist doing? 🙂
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Its me. I haven’t been well lately, & computer use was something I could give uo a lot of time.Glad to see you!!
 
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