Evangelizing Evangelicals

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I was approached by a couple of evangelizing evangelicals today while reading Thomas Merton in the park. They were polite, friendly, and easygoing. After some conversation about where I was in life and what my bigger plans were, they asked me how my relationship with God was. I said “Well! Well, not as well as I’d like.”

They asked me where I went to Church, I said the Catholic parish at my campus, the Newman Center.

One of them said “Not as well as you’d like, hmmm. Are you looking for more–to grow closer to God and know more fully what God’s plan for your life is?”

I said “Yes, absolutely. That’s really where I’m at now: discerning and struggling to grow closer to God.”

So he told me all about how Jesus died for my sins, and through that same sacrifice, the Holy Spirit could draw me into a personal relationship with Jesus if I accepted Him as my personal Lord and Savior. He said before anything else, this is why I was created–to be in a relationship with Jesus. He said Jesus died to know me and be in a relationship with me, not for empty rituals. He asked me if I would like to receive Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior.

I said “I don’t ne–well, um; Yes. I really would.”

He laid hands on me and I repeated after him something along the lines of:
“Heavenly Father, hear my prayer.
Thank you for this day.
I acknowledge that Jesus died for all my sins,
and I accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior.
Help me to live and grow in Christ from now on.
Amen”

He prayed over me further “…God, Greg wants to know your personal plan for him,” etc.

He asked me what it felt like to make that prayer–whether I felt any different. (“A tingling in your belly?”)

I said “Actually it was very familiar. Parts of it reminded me of the Catholic Mass… Have you ever been to Mass?”

He said he hadn’t; I said “Ahh–no? You really should! I think you’d like it a lot–I recognize parts of your prayer from Catholic prayer.”

He asked me when Mass usually is. I said every day, but Sundays are best: 11:00am and 5:00pm. He asked me when I usually went and I said 5:00pm. I said ‘Hey if you came next Sunday I’d be there to shake your hand and introduce you.’ I said to his partner, who had been more or less silent, that she was invited too of course. They said they were looking forward to it.

We kept talking and in the course of the conversation I got around to asking him if he took book recommendations. I recommended the book I was reading then, The Seven Storey Mountain–I told him how wonderful I had found Thomas Merton’s story to be. He asked if he could find it at the library or online, and I ended up giving my copy to him, which was a pain, because I was finally starting to really get into it, but I knew he would probably get even more out of it than I had.

Anyway we all exchanged phone numbers and said warm see you later’s. So that happened.
 
To be honest I’m not sure if I did the right thing. At the important point I almost said “I don’t need to because I already have.” I didn’t want to start an argument though–you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. I’m not sure if they would have been as open to coming to Mass with me or to taking my uber-Catholic book if I had done otherwise.

However, was I completely honest with them? Did I act as if I was willing to be converted away from Catholicism (in order that they would come to Mass and read Thomas Merton)? I’m afraid I gave that impression, and although I know I didn’t betray the Church with anything I said, I’m afraid I was more manipulative than Christ-like.

For the record I have no experience whatsoever with being proselytized–this was my first time. I was calm and confident at the time but now I’m unsure of myself. Was it Christ’s Church they were attracted to through me, or were they just thinking they were making another convert?
 
Nothing was out of order as far as I could see. You may have caught them off guard though, since these people are typically after the unchurched, so to speak. I would have done the same thing; I would have kept an open mind and allowed them to pray over me. Right now, I’ll take all the prayers I can get!
 
To be honest I’m not sure if I did the right thing. At the important point I almost said “I don’t need to because I already have.” I didn’t want to start an argument though–you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. I’m not sure if they would have been as open to coming to Mass with me or to taking my uber-Catholic book if I had done otherwise.

However, was I completely honest with them? Did I act as if I was willing to be converted away from Catholicism (in order that they would come to Mass and read Thomas Merton)? I’m afraid I gave that impression, and although I know I didn’t betray the Church with anything I said, I’m afraid I was more manipulative than Christ-like.

For the record I have no experience whatsoever with being proselytized–this was my first time. I was calm and confident at the time but now I’m unsure of myself. Was it Christ’s Church they were attracted to through me, or were they just thinking they were making another convert?
In my opinion as an Evangelical Methodist, you were kind of manipulative. You should have said you already knew Christ as Lord, but you would be grateful for their prayers with you for deeper growth, and you could have invited them to Mass or talked about Merton.
 
In my opinion as an Evangelical Methodist, you were kind of manipulative. You should have said you already knew Christ as Lord, but you would be grateful for their prayers with you for deeper growth, and you could have invited them to Mass or talked about Merton.
If I had been eloquent enough to think of that at the time I would have said it. I’ll try to clarify when I see them again at Mass in a week for sure…

See I wish you had been there. You could have cleared up confusion caused by I not knowing what they believe and they not knowing what I believe–at the very least you could have told them ‘guys, Catholicism actually does center around knowing, loving, and serving Jesus as our lord and savior’ when somehow I was unable to.
 
I was approached by a couple of evangelizing evangelicals today while reading Thomas Merton in the park. They were polite, friendly, and easygoing. After some conversation about where I was in life and what my bigger plans were, they asked me how my relationship with God was. I said “Well! Well, not as well as I’d like.”

They asked me where I went to Church, I said the Catholic parish at my campus, the Newman Center.

One of them said “Not as well as you’d like, hmmm. Are you looking for more–to grow closer to God and know more fully what God’s plan for your life is?”

I said “Yes, absolutely. That’s really where I’m at now: discerning and struggling to grow closer to God.”

So he told me all about how Jesus died for my sins, and through that same sacrifice, the Holy Spirit could draw me into a personal relationship with Jesus if I accepted Him as my personal Lord and Savior. He said before anything else, this is why I was created–to be in a relationship with Jesus. He said Jesus died to know me and be in a relationship with me, not for empty rituals. He asked me if I would like to receive Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior.

I said “I don’t ne–well, um; Yes. I really would.”

He laid hands on me and I repeated after him something along the lines of:
“Heavenly Father, hear my prayer.
Thank you for this day.
I acknowledge that Jesus died for all my sins,
and I accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior.
Help me to live and grow in Christ from now on.
Amen”

He prayed over me further “…God, Greg wants to know your personal plan for him,” etc.

He asked me what it felt like to make that prayer–whether I felt any different. (“A tingling in your belly?”)

I said “Actually it was very familiar. Parts of it reminded me of the Catholic Mass… Have you ever been to Mass?”

He said he hadn’t; I said “Ahh–no? You really should! I think you’d like it a lot–I recognize parts of your prayer from Catholic prayer.”

He asked me when Mass usually is. I said every day, but Sundays are best: 11:00am and 5:00pm. He asked me when I usually went and I said 5:00pm. I said ‘Hey if you came next Sunday I’d be there to shake your hand and introduce you.’ I said to his partner, who had been more or less silent, that she was invited too of course. They said they were looking forward to it.

We kept talking and in the course of the conversation I got around to asking him if he took book recommendations. I recommended the book I was reading then, The Seven Storey Mountain–I told him how wonderful I had found Thomas Merton’s story to be. He asked if he could find it at the library or online, and I ended up giving my copy to him, which was a pain, because I was finally starting to really get into it, but I knew he would probably get even more out of it than I had.

Anyway we all exchanged phone numbers and said warm see you later’s. So that happened.
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If I had been eloquent enough to think of that at the time I would have said it. I’ll try to clarify when I see them again at Mass in a week for sure…

See I wish you had been there. You could have cleared up confusion caused by I not knowing what they believe and they not knowing what I believe–at the very least you could have told them ‘guys, Catholicism actually does center around knowing, loving, and serving Jesus as our lord and savior’ when somehow I was unable to.
Okay, I’ll let you off the hook, if you weren’t acting deliberately.🙂 😃 If you see them again, anywhere, just say to them what you said here.

As it stands, they may or may not think Catholicism is mostly about a nominal, culture Christianity or about rituals rather than a living, growing faith*; if they were thinking that, your acceptance of their offer to know Christ as “personal Lord and Savior” (when you already do) would reinforce their misconception.

*To clarify, plenty of people, Evangelicals and others, too frequently only run into cultural Catholics, which leads us to wrongly assume that Catholicism is just about rituals or ancestral cultural pride.
 
I can see why you are a little concerned about what you said. Don’t worry about it; I’d say you were just taken by surprise. You by no means did anything wrong, in fact, you sound like you were very polite and respectful of them too! 🙂
 
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