Evangelizing LGBT Christians

[Lady_Love]

LGBT stands for (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and transgender). I have a friend who is a professed homosexual and Russian Orthodox. He insists that practicing homosexuality is NOT a sin, if fact, he believes ALL sexual expressions are just fine. He thinks that changing your gender is a wonderful thing, etc.

I have many gay friends on my facebook and I usually try to avoid getting sucked into debating with them, mostly to keep the peace because I would be arguing with them constantly. But also, because I am immediately labeled a bigot and a hater for calling homosexuality a sin. But I had to speak up this time and boy did I get nailed!

I don’t think it matters how gently or rhetorically you present your case, you are immediately slapped with the “bigot” title or the “hater” title. The thing is, is that I dearly love these people.

I could use some prayers for courage, wisdom, and perseverance.

 

[ThatOrthodoxGuy]

Praying for you!

 

[Jenny35]

One of the most frustrating things in this new world of “tolerance and diversity” is that said tolerance and diversity only exists if you agree with everything the “tolerant” are preaching. Otherwise you are a hater, they have have no tolerance for your diverse opinion. Ironic, but doesn’t make it any less difficult to deal with.

I understand keeping the peace, but it’s also our responsibility to spread the Truth.

Praying for your courage, wisdom, and perseverance.

 

[R_C]

LGBT stands for (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and transgender). I have a friend who is a professed homosexual and Russian Orthodox. He insists that practicing homosexuality is NOT a sin, if fact, he believes ALL sexual expressions are just fine. He thinks that changing your gender is a wonderful thing, etc.

I have many gay friends on my facebook and I usually try to avoid getting sucked into debating with them, mostly to keep the peace because I would be arguing with them constantly. But also, because I am immediately labeled a bigot and a hater for calling homosexuality a sin. But I had to speak up this time and boy did I get nailed!

I don’t think it matters how gently or rhetorically you present your case, you are immediately slapped with the “bigot” title or the “hater” title. The thing is, is that I dearly love these people.

I could use some prayers for courage, wisdom, and perseverance.

Well, to begin with, a Christian who believes that homosexual sexual relations are fine is not a Christian at all - and if baptized, definitely in much need of the Holy Mystery of Repentance.

Second: homosexuality is not a sin The use of the sexual faculty outside of matrimony or in a way close to life is a sin. All homosexual sexual relations are clearly close to life, and that is why they are sinful. The attraction in itself is not.

The true issue is that few are willing to accept that they are called to chastity and continence, perhaps for a lifetime. This is something that extends to heterosexual people as well: many life their life without ever marrying, others embrace consecrated life and take perpetual vows. Matrimony is not a right, it is a calling.

Also, few are willing to acknowledge that the Catholic Church is the only society that truly upholds the dignity of all, men and women, regardless of sexual orientation. The secular world, poisoned by relativism and hedonism, behaves like a parent that gives their children all they want - even things that can be dangerous or unhealthy.

Will society be considered at its best when 12-year-old girls can have abortion or a boy of 16 can have gender change without parental consent, and when marriage is redefined to include not just divorce but also multiple spouses and even polygamy? Is this the civilization we are looking forward to live in? Do we look forward to all sort of sexual immorality to be allowed and even promoted? Do we look forward to modesty and chastity and continence to be rejected as wrong or dangerous concepts?

To understand these things, two behaviors are needed: (1) to stop being defensive and (2) to stop being selfish. Unfortunately, we don’t often find them in those to whom we try to share the Good News and lead towards the Church of God. We are often rejected out of prejudice and misunderstanding, while relativism and hedonism are embraced even though they dehumanize and animalize society, leading towards that which Hobbes terms “the state of nature”. Very well, then - but all we can do is to speak our timeless teachings with simplicity and humbleness, as useless servants entrusted with a lamp or a precious coin, being willing to endure scorn, laughter, and even injury and persecution.

Because ours is an apostolate of love.

And love bears everything for the sake of the loved one.

This is the one thing that is most evident in the Crucified Christ.

 

[Strevel]

The opinions expressed are my own and may, or may not be reflective of the Catholic faith.

Having said that… I do not judge others. I am the humble sinner that needs Christs love and mercy. I do tho, love my neighbor and mind my own business. What another does in the privacy of their own life (no kids, goats or rape) and is between two consenting adults is their business. If we are to be missionaries for Christ we need to lift others and not judge them. Christ / God judges, we do not. If I find a behavior objectionable, then I just do not participate. Being Catholic does not mean that you go and mind e veryone else’s business. It means that you do master your own affairs. You focus, pray and then move out like God has already answered. Ask God for assistance in doing something and never to d it for you. Be nice to your neighbor. Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your father which is in heaven… and glorify “him”. Don’t go judging others, no one likes that or accepts it.
I worked with many Gay and Lesbian individuals in Las Vegas for decades. They are good people, like everyone wrapped in human fears, and just need a hand and polite smile. I do at times
OK, that’s my view
Don, Las Vegas

LGBT stands for (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and transgender). I have a friend who is a professed homosexual and Russian Orthodox. He insists that practicing homosexuality is NOT a sin, if fact, he believes ALL sexual expressions are just fine. He thinks that changing your gender is a wonderful thing, etc.

I have many gay friends on my facebook and I usually try to avoid getting sucked into debating with them, mostly to keep the peace because I would be arguing with them constantly. But also, because I am immediately labeled a bigot and a hater for calling homosexuality a sin. But I had to speak up this time and boy did I get nailed!

I don’t think it matters how gently or rhetorically you present your case, you are immediately slapped with the “bigot” title or the “hater” title. The thing is, is that I dearly love these people.

I could use some prayers for courage, wisdom, and perseverance.

 

[Loqua]

Ultimately, I see it as this:
It keeps coming back to “judge not, lest you be judged” and various deviations of that message. If you believe its wrong, ok, don’t do it, but has it ever been man’s job to be judge, jury or anything of that nature? All of my reading as a christian growing up suggests the answer to be no, but feel free to dispute that if you wish.
Is it possible that he might still do good? I’d argue yes, it is always possible for those who are wrong, right, believers, or non believers, all have the possibility of being able to help make good things happen, whether of their own choice or by being used by god for certain instances, the bible has several instances of all of them.

And not intending to derail the subject, but R_C, a boy changing his gender regardless of age, as long as the steps are taken to ensure mental and physical well-being shouldn’t matter to faith. GID is the cause of a birth defect originating from the mind’s development in the womb starting at about the 12th week of pregnancy, if memory serves. It is solely a biological issue, not a biblical issue, and I would be happy to provide resources to help that point.

Anyway, my point is, the reason why people who are believers and nonbelievers are labeled as bigots or any other derogatory name is precisely because it comes across as judging when you state what you believe to be truth, or do not seem to take others’ thoughts into consideration. The bible may be absolute for you, among other things, but bear in mind that it isn’t so absolute for everyone you meet and you’ll find patience, compassion, and mercy tempering your approaches, and that, in my opinion, makes you a better christian. (just reread the fruits of the spirit if you don’t believe me.)