Eve is conspicuous by omission, in Humani Generis

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You can believe it, just as you can believe in unicorns as long as it does not conflict with the faith, including the reality of original sin. I hope this isn’t ambiguous either.
It is ambiguous.
Do you have specific reference material that you are familiar with?
Saint JP2 discussed evolution.
Bp Barron discusses it.
Others.
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None of them equate evolution with unicorns, as far as I know.
Which Church writing did you get that from?
And I think you should know that belief in unicorns is not ok. That belief violates reason. It is superstition. Superstition is rife among fundamentalists and apostates alike.

Freedom is not the same thing as license. Hopefully that difference is apparent.
 
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None of them equate evolution with unicorns, as far as I know.
Which Church writing did you get that from?
From my little pea-brain.

Seriously, evolution is not only bad science, it isn’t science at all, but rather simply a modern materialistic creation story serving the purposes of secular society. You can conform to the zeitgeist but should remain faithful to the teachings of the church
 
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None of them equate evolution with unicorns, as far as I know.
Which Church writing did you get that from?
From my little pea-brain.

Seriously, evolution is not only bad science, it isn’t science at all, but rather simply a modern materialistic creation story serving the puropses of secular society. You can conform to the zeitgeist but should remain faithful to the teachings of the church
evolution is not inimical to the faith…when it is seen within the eyes of faith.
I think you know that right?

Surely you are not suggesting that faithful Catholics cannot subscribe to generally accepted evolutionary science?
If so, that puts you on an island.
 
evolution is not inimical to the faith…when it is seen within the eyes of faith.
I get it; I don’t believe it.

So let’s imagine that evolution could have been a way by which God, through His angels, brought about the diversity in nature. The first placental creature could have hatched from an egg. Adam could have emerged from the womb of an animal. As an embryo, he could have, through an act of God’s will, divided into male and female zygotes, Eve getting a double x-chromosome from Adam, who maintained the “y” in addition to the “x”. As we find in the wealth of information about near-death experience, there is another dimension to our being, where the events of Eden could have taken place, determining the relationship with the world and the graces that they would posses when born. He did give them animal skins as they left Eden. Perhaps it was angels who took care of them from infancy, helping them grow intellectually and in their relationship with God. This sort of takes an evolutionary perspective. Maybe you can come up with something as to how the faith fits with evolution’s materialistic vision of creation.

The fact is that none of this is random. As one example, let us consider the human brain, which fully functional permits the full expression of the human spirit - the capacity for reason whereby we know the beautiful, the true and the good, free will and love. Random chemical activity actually is destructive to the information-in-action that are the genetic and epigenetic processes that go into the development, growth and maintenance of individual life forms. There is nothing random in the construction of our brain.

Further, the utilitarian concept of natural selection barely scratches the surface of explaining how the diversity of living beings came to be. This is all a manifestation of who God is - Existence, Beauty, Truth and Love, under the cloud that sin brought into the world. Natural selection is merely a shadow of the fact that each individual being is created as a participant in the greater whole that is the environment.

Nope, I’ve listened to the story of evolution since I can recall, having always had a thing for the workings of matter and nature. How many decades did I swallow that myth. Those who seriously decide to seek the truth and not simply accept how the truth has been framed by others will see through it.

Trying to make it work in prayer and in contemplation of the reality of revealed truth, the pieces don’t fit. They do however, fit creation, seeing things for what they are existentially in themselves, grounded in Existence itself. This world does not revolve around matter, but God Himself, from whom all this wonder springs forth.
 
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evolution is not inimical to the faith…when it is seen within the eyes of faith.
I get it; I don’t believe it.
With all due respect for you beliefs, what you profess here is irrelevant.
The fact is…
evolution is not necessarily incompatible with the Catholic faith, as long as evolution doesn’t lapse into apostasy from the doctrines of the faith. And I’m sorry, but I am going to think with competent and holy Church leadership every time, not with random internet opinions.

So you are welcome to reject the integration of faith with mainstream science…your choice. But that doesn’t give you license to distort the Church’s position.

Freedom and license are not the same thing.
 
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And I am done with it.
You can chafe all you want. These positions need to be publicly clarified, and that’s it.
I’m not going to dignify errant opinions with banter. Thousands of internet posts don’t add clarity, evidently.
 
what you profess here is irrelevant.
I suppose it is irrelevant to those who would be less interested in exploring the truth and more so in asserting their beliefs without adquate justification. We can believe what we will. It is important to question our beliefs and inform them.
Freedom and license are not the same thing.
Can you explain? I have no idea where this is coming from. It seems to emphasize what i am saying in this post.
 
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once they were out of Eden (he blamed her for his downfall, remember?)
aside: Whom does Adam blame?

The man replied, “The woman whom you put here with me—she gave me fruit from the tree, so I ate it.”
 
You may be interested in looking at The Book of the Cave of Treasures, a sixth century Christian sacred history. It gives the history of the descendants of Adam. Yes, I realize it does not have the authority of sacred scripture, and it may or may not be historical. But it is recognized by scholars as a useful text.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bct/
 
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