Ever Heard Of This Order?

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Hello all, I just have been wondering, has anyone here ever heard of the Vocationist Fathers? They seem good, but yet I figured I ask, and maybe some of you have had direct or indirect contact with this order? I am discerning a possible vocation to the priesthood, or monastic life.
Thanks for your help.
 
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misericordie:
Hello all, I just have been wondering, has anyone here ever heard of the Vocationist Fathers? They seem good, but yet I figured I ask, and maybe some of you have had direct or indirect contact with this order? I am discerning a possible vocation to the priesthood, or monastic life.
Thanks for your help.
The “Vacationist Fathers” are the ones that you can never find around the parish.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
The “Vacationist Fathers” are the ones that you can never find around the parish.
har har har hardee ha ha. Ummmm, those would be the DIOCESAN clergy, they are out playing golf lots.
VOCATIONIST FATHERS, not vacationist fathers.
 
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har har har hardee ha ha. Ummmm, those would be the DIOCESAN clergy, they are out playing golf lots.
VOCATIONIST FATHERS, not vacationist fathers.
I was just kidding. That is why the yellow smile is at the top. Golf did cross my mind though!
 
Don’t know anything about the vocationists. If you are thinking about the monastic life, check out the carthusians up in vermont. Or the cistercians, or the trappists, or the benedictines…
 
Deacon Ed:
You can learn about the Vocationist Fathers on their web site: vocationist.org/

Deacon Ed
Deacon, what do you believe are the pro’s and con’s of the diocesan priesthood VS. Religious life? I invite (name removed by moderator)ut for everyone else as well. Believe me, I would really like to learn more about the major differences, as per I am a little ignorant mostly about the diocesan priesthood. Are they more like a regular lay man with the vows of Chastity and obedience? What about a guy who is from moderate economic means? Are they responsible for all their own expenses? Retirement, etc?
Thanks all for your great (name removed by moderator)ut. Also, are some diocese actually better than others to enter?
 
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misericordie:
Deacon, what do you believe are the pro’s and con’s of the diocesan priesthood VS. Religious life? I invite (name removed by moderator)ut for everyone else as well. Believe me, I would really like to learn more about the major differences, as per I am a little ignorant mostly about the diocesan priesthood. Are they more like a regular lay man with the vows of Chastity and obedience? What about a guy who is from moderate economic means? Are they responsible for all their own expenses? Retirement, etc?
Thanks all for your great (name removed by moderator)ut. Also, are some diocese actually better than others to enter?
Diocesan priests are paid a salary (if you could call it that) that is little more than an allowance – spending money, some for retirement, and some for paying taxes and social security (priests are, as far as the government is concerned, self-employed to they pay the full amount of social security). Religious priests are not paid, but they do have access to whatever they need for their living expenses (if they don’t live in community).

The major difference between religious and diocesan priests is that the religious are subject to both their superior and the bishop of the area where they are working while diocesan priests only report to their bishop (and, of course, the pastor of the parish where they are assigned).

Since religious priests take vows of poverty, they give up any money or assets they may have had. Diocesan priests may keep whatever funds or assets they had when they entered the priesthood (they make promises of obedience and celibacy, but not poverty). For example, one of the priests in my diocese is the son of the founder of Carl’s Jr. restaurants. He had some money of his own, and kept that. Several of the priests here own (either outright or shared) cabins in the mountains.

Religious priests can be sent anywhere their group is serving, or could open new areas. Diocesan priests can be assured of being assigned to a place in their diocese – although they can request a transfer to another diocese (either temporary or permanent) and they can be sent out of the area for continuing education.

I hope this helps to address the questions you asked.

Deacon Ed
 
Deacon Ed:
Diocesan priests are paid a salary (if you could call it that) that is little more than an allowance – spending money, some for retirement, and some for paying taxes and social security (priests are, as far as the government is concerned, self-employed to they pay the full amount of social security). Religious priests are not paid, but they do have access to whatever they need for their living expenses (if they don’t live in community).

The major difference between religious and diocesan priests is that the religious are subject to both their superior and the bishop of the area where they are working while diocesan priests only report to their bishop (and, of course, the pastor of the parish where they are assigned).

Since religious priests take vows of poverty, they give up any money or assets they may have had. Diocesan priests may keep whatever funds or assets they had when they entered the priesthood (they make promises of obedience and celibacy, but not poverty). For example, one of the priests in my diocese is the son of the founder of Carl’s Jr. restaurants. He had some money of his own, and kept that. Several of the priests here own (either outright or shared) cabins in the mountains.

Religious priests can be sent anywhere their group is serving, or could open new areas. Diocesan priests can be assured of being assigned to a place in their diocese – although they can request a transfer to another diocese (either temporary or permanent) and they can be sent out of the area for continuing education.

I hope this helps to address the questions you asked.

Deacon Ed
Thanks deacon.
 
At our parish we have both diocesean as well as religious order priests (they take two of the Sunday Masses as we have five Masses at the mother church and two at the mission church). The biggest pro for the religious order priests is community. Many of our diocesean priests are in one priest parishes which can be a somewhat lonely life. Also when they get older the religious order priests are taken care of by their community. While the diocese does have a home for elderly priests, it is much better to be in a situation where you can recieve nursing care and still remain part of the community. Just my :twocents:
 
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Deacon, what do you believe are the pro’s and con’s of the diocesan priesthood VS. Religious life? I invite (name removed by moderator)ut for everyone else as well. Believe me, I would really like to learn more about the major differences, as per I am a little ignorant mostly about the diocesan priesthood. Are they more like a regular lay man with the vows of Chastity and obedience? What about a guy who is from moderate economic means? Are they responsible for all their own expenses? Retirement, etc?
Thanks all for your great (name removed by moderator)ut. Also, are some diocese actually better than others to enter?
I think you should go to a monastery to check out what it is like.
clearcreekmonks.org/
 
If you are looking at the diocesan priesthood, then obviously the diocese you sign up with will have a great deal of importance. Read the vocation story of Father John Trugilio from EWTN to see what I mean. If you are looking at orders, then the more important question is not where but who. A good barometer of the state of any particular order or diocese is the number of vocations that they attract. Solid orthodox orders/dioceses will have increasing or at least steady numbers of priests/vocations. Those orders/dioceses infected with heterodoxy will be struggling to attract new men. For the various orders, also look at what sort of disciplines and daily practices the priests are required to maintain. Laxity in discipline tends to go hand-in-hand with laxity in fidelity.
 
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