Ever wonder what Jesus' personality was like?

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Antegin said:
Revelations is a tricky read. It’s so different from the gospel and letters that many, including Catholic scholars question if the same author wrote this book. If you are too literal in the interpretation, you will get it wrong.

More so than the other Johannine works, Revelations is full of SOLICISMS or use of grammatically incorrect language, and has a rather limited vocabulary. Some have suggested that means the actual author of revelations was not as well educated as the author of the Gospel. .
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Revelation is part of Holy Scripture, it is not some peripheral unreliable text written by someone who didn’t really know what he was doing. And what has education got to do with it? The only educated Apostle was Paul. Are we to base the validity of scripture on the level of education of the author?
Antegin said:
Reading Jesus as leading a charge into some battle would be an overly simplistic interpretation.
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Christ is our commander in chief. In this part of Revelation, Christ and His armies come to slay the beast and all his minions. Christ is covered in blood and stomping in a winepress. This analogy would seem to indicate the blood of His enemies. Revelation 17-25 makes it pretty clear that this is a battle. Christ is our warrior king.

We are in the midst of spiritual warfare and it isn’t pleasant. We simply have to look at the world around us. Satan is real, demons are real, we are in the midst of a battle against real entities (not concepts, but real entities). Christ in our Commander-in-chief, we are His foot-soldiers. He will return one day to lead us in person for the final battle where He will defeat satan and cast him into hell forever. Following this the Final Judgement will take place.
 
Brendan_64 said:
Revelation is part of Holy Scripture, it is not some peripheral unreliable text written by someone who didn’t really know what he was doing. And what has education got to do with it? The only educated Apostle was Paul. Are we to base the validity of scripture on the level of education of the author?

Christ is our commander in chief. In this part of Revelation, Christ and His armies come to slay the beast and all his minions. Christ is covered in blood and stomping in a winepress. This analogy would seem to indicate the blood of His enemies. Revelation 17-25 makes it pretty clear that this is a battle. Christ is our warrior king.

We are in the midst of spiritual warfare and it isn’t pleasant. We simply have to look at the world around us. Satan is real, demons are real, we are in the midst of a battle against real entities (not concepts, but real entities). Christ in our Commander-in-chief, we are His foot-soldiers. He will return one day to lead us in person for the final battle where He will defeat satan and cast him into hell forever. Following this the Final Judgement will take place.
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One of the difficulties the Apostles had was the contradiction that scriptures had forseen a great, glorious King, literally conquering the enemy, for a Messiah… but Jesus was poor, dependent and wouldn’t fight for His life. It’s quite feasible that Revelations in the traditions of the Jewish scriptures, is using archetypal imagery rather than foretelling a literal scenario.
 
Ad_Orientem said:
Regarding temptation, our Lord was tempted in every way but without sin (Heb. 4:15). Since his soul was perfectly ordered, all the temptations were from without; i.e., nothing within him inclined him at all to sin (cf. S.T. III, 15).
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These were my thoughts exactly.

Don’t forget, OP, that there are two major categories of temptation: inner and outer. We can be outwardly tempted in various ways: for example, noticing the big bag of chocolate on the kitchen counter. But, since our passions are not perfectly subordinate to our reason, this outward temptation likewise results in one that is inner. Suddenly, the chocolate moves me to desire it, even though I know, for various reasons, I’ll only pig out on it, and shouldn’t even bother starting.

Christ was outwardly tempted, even directly by Satan. But this did not cause His passions to move in a way which His reason did not command (perfectly illumined as it was).

An example of this might be the various ways in which we can tempt God. If I go out into a storm with a child and start daring God to strike the child with lightning, well I’m not appealing to some sort of weakness of His that might cause Him to do something sinful. But I am “outwardly” tempting Him, in a certain sense.
 
Same as you ,Rosarydevotion , I would have loved to be a fly to watch Him for a while in his every day life ,gestures ,a day before public life…
I feel that connection with the person of Jesus in his humanity. It is His humanity that moves me so much. There is that magnetism He must have had to cut so deep into those who knew Him.
If I had to choose one second to be present that would be the Sermon of the Mount ,the Beatitudes. Beyond words…
Thanks for your questions. So nice to think about Him that way.
If you can read Spanish ,let me know. Martin Descalzo is awsome and has a very special way to narrate ( Vida y obra de Jesus de Nazareth ,and many others I ve read)
The good news is…one day we ll know !
Bless you.
 
I think that many of us draw conclusions about Our Lord’s personality and appearance based on our own preferences. If we are drawn to strong, commanding figures, then Jesus was a manly man. If we prefer a caring, gentle type, then Jesus was a sensitive guy. It seems to me that He was all of this, and more (and I’m only musing on His humanity here - the fact that He was also divine cannot be forgotten). Something about Him made Him attractive and compelling for so many different people. Certainly He wasn’t stern, sorrowful or angry all of the time, or few people would have been drawn to Him. Bottom line, I think it is good that Jesus can be for us whatever we most need Him to be.
 
graciew said:
That was an interesting perspective:)
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Thank you.

One of the reasons I picked that was because when people are Extroverts, the last function in the list is one that is true, i.e. what you see is what you get. Thus, if somebody was an ESTP, his last function, Perceiving, would be true of how he approaches closure vs. openness (Perceivers prefer openness, or gathering more information rather than calling a halt). On the other hand, Introverts are actually the opposite inside of what they appear to be to the outside world. Thus, if Jesus appeared to the world to be INFJ (Judging - desires closure), He would actually more strongly have desired continuing to gather more data rather than close off all further possibilities. I think this (plus Feeling as a way of making decisions) would align with His well-known penchant for showing mercy towards sinners even though he was perfectly capable of rendering what ought to be the correct Judgement of them.

With Extroverts, what you see is what you get. With Introverts, things are often a bit more complex.
 
Hans_W said:
Yes, you seem to prefer the physical battle.
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The last time I checked I’ve never been in a physical battle in that sense. I have been engaged in street prayer and exchanging words with those hostile to our faith. But make no mistake what is happening in Iraq and Syria right now is certainly very physical, and anyone who claims that that is not the direct result of satan’s minions is being willfully blind. The physical and the spiritual are integrally connected, the physical is a manifestation of the spiritual.
 
Remember that our will, being corrupt, is effectively in mutiny. Our LORD’s was not.
 
graciew said:
Same as you ,Rosarydevotion , I would have loved to be a fly to watch Him for a while in his every day life ,gestures ,a day before public life…
I feel that connection with the person of Jesus in his humanity. It is His humanity that moves me so much. There is that magnetism He must have had to cut so deep into those who knew Him.
If I had to choose one second to be present that would be the Sermon of the Mount ,the Beatitudes. Beyond words…
Thanks for your questions. So nice to think about Him that way.
If you can read Spanish ,let me know. Martin Descalzo is awsome and has a very special way to narrate ( Vida y obra de Jesus de Nazareth ,and many others I ve read)
The good news is…one day we ll know !
Bless you.
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Hi Gracie, no I cant read spanish. But I so agree with what you wrote, yes, even the mannerisms and gestures I think about. I think I do this because I am very sensitive and watchful of how others communicate, I love to watch people and I seem to glean more from how a person communicates, rather than what they say. Body language to me, speaks louder than words. So fitting that our Lord has given us the Eucharist so we can receive Him tangibly.

Yes, His private life I meditate a lot on. It’s just so amazing that He took the form of a human for us. I have heard that the mystic Catherine Emmerick has written books about Jesus’ personal life. Apparently she had many visions. Her books are on my Amazon wish list.

I love the scene in the passion of the Christ where Jesus jokes with Mary and splashes Her with water after He washes His hands. I love thinking about how He was in that setting. Its just so cool.
 
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