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Out of body near death experiences are not concrete evidence of anything except that the person almost died. The brain is a very tricky thing. I mean, really tricky. Just take some college courses or read online to find out just how much your brain is willing to just fabricate and make stuff just to make you happy. It could’ve been a dream, or their mind could’ve made it up because they, even on some level, knew they would be clinically dead with no brain function, and therefore thought that they should have an out of body experience and so their brain made one up.
Stating that there was no brain function doesn’t negate that their brain made something up. For one thing, the brain is not a lightbulb, there is no quick on and off switch. Let’s take that woman with the anuerism as an example. There was ‘cooldown’ and ‘warm-up’ time while she was unconscious. It could’ve easily happened during either or both those times, since a short amount of real time can turn into a long amount of dream time. Or even random people who get into horrible accidents and their brain shuts down. If they come out of it, there’s still tons of time when they’re unconscious with brain function to dream stuff up.
Also, saying it felt ‘really really real’ is downright horrible evidence. I’ve had tons of dreams that I could’ve sworn were real, and I know just about everybody else has too. Nobody (or very few people) try to claim those dreams are evidence of anything despite how real they are. Why? Because it wouldn’t accomplish an agenda. Since you’re not in a position of death/near-death, you can’t claim supernatural activity. And since I didn’t experience anything heaven related, nobody can use that to try and say it’s evidence of God.
So, that’s the hard, logical point of view. Now for the religious. Even from a religious standpoint, it just doesn’t make a lick of sense if you think about it longer than five seconds. Heaven/Hell is supposed to be a one way trip. Sometimes/usually you make a pit stop in Purgatory, which is still a one way trip. To say that you can be allowed into Heaven temporarily is tentamount to sacrilige because it states, however indirectly, that God can be fooled into thinking you’re dead. The Bible is pretty clear on your judgement being final, and the only way you could possibly get into Heaven/Hell is if God judged you. Which means that God thought you were dead. But you weren’t, and eventually you get yanked back out by human hands. None of that makes even a little sense. But sometimes that hurts people’s feelings because they think they saw God or whatever. Which, it can make sense for God to come to you while you’re at your weakest possible state, and give you what you need. But to say that you were actually in Heaven is just proposterous.
There is no real concrete evidence of God, and I doubt there ever will be. That’s why faith is so precious.
Stating that there was no brain function doesn’t negate that their brain made something up. For one thing, the brain is not a lightbulb, there is no quick on and off switch. Let’s take that woman with the anuerism as an example. There was ‘cooldown’ and ‘warm-up’ time while she was unconscious. It could’ve easily happened during either or both those times, since a short amount of real time can turn into a long amount of dream time. Or even random people who get into horrible accidents and their brain shuts down. If they come out of it, there’s still tons of time when they’re unconscious with brain function to dream stuff up.
Also, saying it felt ‘really really real’ is downright horrible evidence. I’ve had tons of dreams that I could’ve sworn were real, and I know just about everybody else has too. Nobody (or very few people) try to claim those dreams are evidence of anything despite how real they are. Why? Because it wouldn’t accomplish an agenda. Since you’re not in a position of death/near-death, you can’t claim supernatural activity. And since I didn’t experience anything heaven related, nobody can use that to try and say it’s evidence of God.
So, that’s the hard, logical point of view. Now for the religious. Even from a religious standpoint, it just doesn’t make a lick of sense if you think about it longer than five seconds. Heaven/Hell is supposed to be a one way trip. Sometimes/usually you make a pit stop in Purgatory, which is still a one way trip. To say that you can be allowed into Heaven temporarily is tentamount to sacrilige because it states, however indirectly, that God can be fooled into thinking you’re dead. The Bible is pretty clear on your judgement being final, and the only way you could possibly get into Heaven/Hell is if God judged you. Which means that God thought you were dead. But you weren’t, and eventually you get yanked back out by human hands. None of that makes even a little sense. But sometimes that hurts people’s feelings because they think they saw God or whatever. Which, it can make sense for God to come to you while you’re at your weakest possible state, and give you what you need. But to say that you were actually in Heaven is just proposterous.
There is no real concrete evidence of God, and I doubt there ever will be. That’s why faith is so precious.