Evidence for the Divine Inspiration of the Bible?

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Hi everyone. What is some evidence that we have for the divine inspiration of the Bible? 🤷:confused:
 
One point is that the bible is made up of over 40 different authors, over thousands of years, and ALL being in agreement about the work/vision/will of GOD… this is quiet incredible since in other religions they might have “one” person as their author…

It is said the Old testament prophets where moved by either the WORD of GOD or the HOLY SPIRIT, again this is in agreement of where we are now, both in Word and Spirit…

Also what God foretold (in some cases upto thousands of years before) actually came to pass, we know this is real because it was recorded in oral traditon and writings of Jews and Gentiles and it being the history of the world and empires… e.g look at the propehcy of the book of Daniel and the kingdoms - this actually happened… consecutive kingdoms being Assyria/Medes and persians then Greek, the bible spells this out well before time.

Another argument is “faith”… do you believe what took place in the NT, actually happened? This is argument enough, since Christ is DIVINE. But if you dont believe him then believe on the base of the Miracles themselves is another point…

I hope this makes a start in answering your question… 🙂
 
One point is that the bible is made up of over 40 different authors, over thousands of years, and ALL being in agreement about the work/vision/will of GOD… this is quiet incredible since in other religions they might have “one” person as their author…

It is said the Old testament prophets where moved by either the WORD of GOD or the HOLY SPIRIT, again this is in agreement of where we are now, both in Word and Spirit…

Also what God foretold (in some cases upto thousands of years before) actually came to pass, we know this is real because it was recorded in oral traditon and writings of Jews and Gentiles and it being the history of the world and empires… e.g look at the propehcy of the book of Daniel and the kingdoms - this actually happened… consecuative kingdoms being Assyria/Medes and persians then Greek, the bible spells this out well before time.

Another argument is “faith”… do you believe what took place in the NT, actually happened? This is argument enough, since Christ is DIVINE. But if you dont believe him then believe on the base of the Miracles themselves is another point…

I hope this makes a start in answering your question… 🙂
Ah ok thanks! I already believe in the Bible’s divine inspiration but I was doubting it. That is why I asked the question that I did.
 
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You haven’t said WHY you believe the Bible is divinely inspired – on whose authority?

You put it together?
 
Holly3278
You haven’t said WHY you believe the Bible is divinely inspired – on whose authority?

You put it together?
The Church says so and so does scripture itself at 2 Timothy 3:16 - twinc
 
The Bible says (in so many places) that it is inspired.

I think that it is evident from the content that it is inspired. There are large books that list the inconsistencies and/or problems with the Bible, but I have found these books themselves to contain a lot of skepticism and misplaced criticism.

Instead I find overwhelming consistency and agreement in scripture.

If you want to believe and/or check whether the Bible is Catholic, you can look and see that it is Catholic. If you want to believe it is Lutheran, Presybterian (Calvinist), or whatever, you have to step over the Catholic stuff that’s there to do it.

Mine is not an elitist or vainglorious position, simply one of deep conviction and experience.** I have found the treasure hidden in the field. I have purchased the pearl of great price. I know the Truth and the Truth has set me free.**
 
Hi everyone. What is some evidence that we have for the divine inspiration of the Bible? 🤷:confused:
We, as catholics accept the divine inspiration of the Bible because the Church teaches that it is so. Not because the Bible says it is so.
Any book will be “self authenticating”. If we accept the Bible only, or primarily, because the Bible says so, then, by the same logic, we must accept the Koran and the Book of Morman because they too claim divine inspiration.

No - we know that The Bible is the inspired written Word of God, because the Church, which assembled the proper books under the guiance of the Holy Spirit says so.

Peace
James
 
From the Catechism;

I. CHRIST - THE UNIQUE WORD OF SACRED SCRIPTURE

101** In order to reveal himself to men, in the condescension of his goodness God speaks to them in human words:** "Indeed the words of God, expressed in the words of men, are in every way like human language, just as the Word of the eternal Father, when he took on himself the flesh of human weakness, became like men."63

102 Through all the words of Sacred Scripture, God speaks only one single Word, his one Utterance in whom he expresses himself completely:64
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You recall that one and the same Word of God extends throughout Scripture, that it is one and the same Utterance that resounds in the mouths of all the sacred writers, since he who was in the beginning God with God has no need of separate syllables; for he is not subject to time.65
103 For this reason, the Church has always venerated the Scriptures as she venerates the Lord’s Body. She never ceases to present to the faithful the bread of life, taken from the one table of God’s Word and Christ’s Body.66

104 In Sacred Scripture, the Church constantly finds her nourishment and her strength, for she welcomes it not as a human word, “but as what it really is, the word of God”.67 "In the sacred books, the Father who is in heaven comes lovingly to meet his children, and talks with them."68

II. INSPIRATION AND TRUTH OF SACRED SCRIPTURE

105 **God is the author of Sacred Scripture. “The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.”**69

"For Holy Mother Church, relying on the faith of the apostolic age, accepts as sacred and canonical the books of the Old and the New Testaments, whole and entire, with all their parts, on the grounds that, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and have been handed on as such to the Church herself."70

106 God inspired the human authors of the sacred books. "To compose the sacred books, God chose certain men who, all the while he employed them in this task, made full use of their own faculties and powers so that, though he acted in them and by them, it was as true authors that they consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more."71

107 The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."72

108 Still, the Christian faith is not a “religion of the book.” Christianity is the religion of the “Word” of God, a word which is “not a written and mute word, but the Word which is incarnate and living”.73 If the Scriptures are not to remain a dead letter, Christ, the eternal Word of the living God, must, through the Holy Spirit, "open [our] minds to understand the Scriptures."74

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
=Holly3278;6290842]Hi everyone. What is some evidence that we have for the divine inspiration of the Bible? 🤷:confused:
And while your at it: Can the bible be true, Inspired and NOT always factual at the same time?
 
Hi everyone. What is some evidence that we have for the divine inspiration of the Bible?
The Hebrew people, our elder brothers in Faith before us, also considered the Holy Scriptures to be God breathed.

2 Tim 3:15 says that Holy Scripture is inspired by God.

The Divine inspiration of Holy Scripture was Declared by The Catholic Church and is Sacred Tradition of The Catholic Church.
Here’re some early examples:

St. Clement of Rome, First Letter to the Corinthians (ca. AD 80): “Brethren, be contentious and zealous for the things which lead to salvation! You have studied the Holy Scriptures, which are true and are of the Holy Spirit. You well know that nothing unjust or fraudulent is written in them. [45,1]”

From St. Irenaeus’ *Against Heresies *(ca. AD 180/199): “… the Scriptures are certainly perfect, since they were spoken by the Word of God and by His Spirit. [2, 28, 2]”
 
We, as catholics accept the divine inspiration of the Bible because the Church teaches that it is so. Not because the Bible says it is so.
Any book will be “self authenticating”. If we accept the Bible only, or primarily, because the Bible says so, then, by the same logic, we must accept the Koran and the Book of Morman because they too claim divine inspiration.

No - we know that The Bible is the inspired written Word of God, because the Church, which assembled the proper books under the guiance of the Holy Spirit says so.

Peace
James
Going along these lines I read somewhere that the Gospels of the Times were all placed UNDER a large table within a large hall…prayers were said and all the Bishops agreed that GOD would decide which books were to become the New Testament Bible…the hall was then locked…the next morning when it was unlocked the stacked, chosen Gospels were stacked on the Table…thereby, it was written that GOD chose the Gospel books and had placed them on the Table?! Have you ever heard of this…?
 
Going along these lines I read somewhere that the Gospels of the Times were all placed UNDER a large table within a large hall…prayers were said and all the Bishops agreed that GOD would decide which books were to become the New Testament Bible…the hall was then locked…the next morning when it was unlocked the stacked, chosen Gospels were stacked on the Table…thereby, it was written that GOD chose the Gospel books and had placed them on the Table?! Have you ever heard of this…?
Nope never heard of this. Also I wouldn’t put much credance in it.
It is enough for me that the temporal authority Christ placed over me, that is His Body, The Church, has determined the canon.

Peace
James
 
And while your at it: Can the bible be true, Inspired and NOT always factual at the same time?
Of course - fiction is a valid vehicle for revelation. Fiction can teach great truths.
 
Not because the Bible says it is so.
…we know that The Bible is the inspired written Word of God, because the Church, which assembled the proper books under the guiance of the Holy Spirit says so.

Peace
James
I totally agree with James, the bible records the words of Our Lord and Jesus said “your word is truth” but we cannot just read the words of Jesus and say that it is true without the Church.

Jesus words only exist and have reached us because of the men and women of the holy church and so without these OTHER people, the words of Jesus as recorded by the apostles would not be enough.

We need the church to confirm Jesus words in the bible otherwise we cannot say for sure if they are true.
 
=Cashue;6301973]I totally agree with James, the bible records the words of Our Lord and Jesus said “your word is truth” but we cannot just read the words of Jesus and say that it is true without the Church.
Jesus words only exist and have reached us because of the men and women of the holy church and so without these OTHER people, the words of Jesus as recorded by the apostles would not be enough.
We need the church to confirm Jesus words in the bible otherwise we cannot say for sure if they are true.
***It seems to me that that there are least two evidences of indispuitable fact for this reality.
  1. The Life of Jesus Christ
  2. The fulfillment of Scripture OT in the NT ***
 
I have a question:

Which bible is considered to be the revealed Word of God Almighty?
 
Nope never heard of this. Also I wouldn’t put much credance in it.
It is enough for me that the temporal authority Christ placed over me, that is His Body, The Church, has determined the canon.

Peace
James
It is based on the “Sortes Sanctorium”…The Council of Nicea were unable to agree so decided to leave the decision to miraculous intervention.This Nicean Council numbered 318 Bishops. Barnabas stresses there is no agreement among the ancient writers as to the time and place of its assembly nor even as to the bishop who presided. Notwithstanding the grandiloquent eulogium of Constantine, Sabinus, the Bishop of Heraclea, affirms that “except Constantine, the Emperor and Eusebius Pamphilus, these bishops were a set of illerterate, simple creatures, that understood nothing”. In his “Synodicon” to that Council, Pappus says having “promisculously put all the books that were referred to the Council for determination under a communion-table in a church, the (the bishops) besought the LORD that the inspired writings might get upon the table, while the spurious ones remained underneath, and it happened accordingly”…
 
=SonofAdam;6306344]I have a question:
Which bible is considered to be the revealed Word of God Almighty?
In This Order:

**Latin Vulgate **[about 350AD] the first comon language complete Bible in a single book

Douay Rheims: Translation of the Vulgate into English about 1600 [about 10 years before the KJB was published]

**2 Tim. 3 16 **“All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice”

Lutain Vulgate “omnis scriptura divinitus inspirata et utilis ad docendum ad arguendum ad corrigendum ad erudiendum in iustitia”

Third would be any Catholic Bible
 
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