EVOLUTION: A Catholic Solution?

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Death for us. Death was already part of the biological world, and had been since the beginning. The death spoken of in Genesis is s spiritual death.

Gen. 2:17 But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat. For in what day soever thou shalt eat of it, thou shalt die the death.

And yet when Adam eats it, he doesn’t physically die that day. But as the serpent said, his eyes were opened, making him like God, aware of good and evil. He died spiritually that day. This is the death that came into the world.
He lost bodily immortality.
 
Prayer is not outlawed in a public school. It’s just that the government can’t get involved. My daughter did an “at the flagpole” prayer before school every morning. No one could stop them, because the school administration wasn’t involved.

So long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public school.
In real life, school boards determine whether prayer or a two-minute period of silence is allowed or refused within the school building or on the grounds or whether it takes place during the official school frame etc.

Your daughter is very lucky that the school administration stayed out of it. Please congratulate her for me.

Nonetheless, it is my bet that she had the support of stand-up- and-be-counted Catholics and others who believe in freedom of conscience in the community. Remember School Boards are elected.

Blessings,
granny

All human life is worthy of respect. Human life is sacred.
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In real life, school boards determine whether prayer or a two-minute period of silence is allowed or refused within the school building or on the grounds or whether it takes place during the official school frame etc.

Your daughter is very lucky that the school administration stayed out of it. Please congratulate her for me.

Nonetheless, it is my bet that she had the support of stand-up- and-be-counted Catholics and others who believe in freedom of conscience in the community. Remember School Boards are elected.

Blessings,
granny

All human life is worthy of respect. Human life is sacred.
Check out FOCA.
It is not a moment of silence but to be able to pray at the start of school in homeroom. Congress does it, the Supreme court does it, Why can they not at school?
 
It is not a moment of silence but to be able to pray at the start of school in homeroom. Congress does it, the Supreme court does it, Why can they not at school?
Why? Too many quiet voices… We have been brainwashed.
 
Brainwashed? No. All the secularists have to do is influence a few powerful people. We stood to the Pledge of Allegiance and said,

“One nation, under God…” And then it was taken away.

Peace,
Ed
 
(1) When have the courts ruled that practicing one’s religion is unlawful?

(2) City hall does not hire Christmas managers.
No, but it was alright for City Halls to have Nativities in front of them until someone woke up one morning and jumped up and down. No! You can’t do that!

No one had to acknowledge it or bow before it or leave money in it. The ACLU is Anti-religion.

Peace,
Ed
 
I think this discussion has digressed way off track.
What does a moment of silence or any kind of prayer have to do with evolution or creationism? Not that there is anything wrong with either prayer or silence but we are talking about evolution and or creation aren’t we?
 
It always ends up going in this direction because this issue is about political power, i.e. who gets to guide people? Scientists and secularists? Or the Church, which combines scientific results with the deposit of faith, providing to all mankind the fullness of the truth. The alternative is the worship of the human mind alone. That is idolatry.

Peace,
Ed
 
There really isn’t a need to explain the soul in scientific terms. In fact, it’s impossible to do so, the supernatural being out of reach for science.
 
I want to know more about the conference in Rome during the first week of March regarding the very question of creation vs. evolutionism. Notre Dame University and the Georgian pontifical college are sponsoring. They are assembling some of the great minds in the areas of philosophy, biology theology, and many other areas of religion and science, all to see where we as Catholics are for the sesquicentennial of Darwin’s origin of species.

Bruce
It always ends up going in this direction because this issue is about political power, i.e. who gets to guide people? Scientists and secularists? Or the Church, which combines scientific results with the deposit of faith, providing to all mankind the fullness of the truth. The alternative is the worship of the human mind alone. That is idolatry.

Peace,
Ed
 
Adam and Eve: Real People

In this regard, Pope Pius XII stated: "When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty.390).
Pius XII did not know what we now know about genetics, and the genetic impossibility of all human beings descending from one breeding pair.
 
I want to know more about the conference in Rome during the first week of March regarding the very question of creation vs. evolutionism. Notre Dame University and the Georgian pontifical college are sponsoring. They are assembling some of the great minds in the areas of philosophy, biology theology, and many other areas of religion and science, all to see where we as Catholics are for the sesquicentennial of Darwin’s origin of species. Bruce
Bruce, its the Gregorian University. I’m flying to Rome in a month to participate in that conference. No doubt it will be heavily reported, but I will post my reflections here as well.

StAnastasia
 
Brainwashed? No. All the secularists have to do is influence a few powerful people. We stood to the Pledge of Allegiance and said,

“One nation, under God…” And then it was taken away.

Peace,
Ed
Brainwashed-- maybe not the older generation. I’ve listened to the current 30 year olds. I’ve listened to the 30 year olds more than 10 years ago in Alaska. They had a sense of the spiritual but had lost God. And I’m in touch with those just out of high school. Believe me, we are almost the same as the secularists.

My apology Ed and others. I also know young people who are currently evangelizing on university campuses. I know lots of people who are praying in Eucharistic Chapels. I know kids who traveled to Washington to protest abortion.

I also see nearly empty churches.

Excuse me, my granddaughter is calling me.

Blessings,
granny

All human life is worthy of profound respect.

check FOCA
 
Pius XII did not know what we now know about genetics, and the genetic impossibility of all human beings descending from one breeding pair.
You seem to be forgetting, entirely, about the power of God.

Peace,
Ed
 
Brainwashed-- maybe not the older generation. I’ve listened to the current 30 year olds. I’ve listened to the 30 year olds more than 10 years ago in Alaska. They had a sense of the spiritual but had lost God. And I’m in touch with those just out of high school. Believe me, we are almost the same as the secularists.

My apology Ed and others. I also know young people who are currently evangelizing on university campuses. I know lots of people who are praying in Eucharistic Chapels. I know kids who traveled to Washington to protest abortion.

I also see nearly empty churches.

Excuse me, my granddaughter is calling me.

Blessings,
granny

All human life is worthy of profound respect.

check FOCA
No need to apologize. I am regularly in touch with teenagers, 20 year olds and 30 year olds. I’ve got a good idea of what they’re thinking. The point: this is God’s Church and He will prevail. As He has sent Mary and brought us saints, the Holy Spirit of God continues to move across the world.

God bless,
Ed
 
Pius XII did not know what we now know about genetics, and the genetic impossibility of all human beings descending from one breeding pair.
Pope Pius XII, like all the authors of Scriptures, knew NOTHING OF THE DETAILS of what they wrote.

THANKFULLY, your intellect outstrips them all and we can now DISCOUNT the above Pope’s view, as well as a good portion of Scripture authorship!

God, apparently, cannot do the impossible! We now have enough knowledge to say with confidence, Adam and Eve were not real people. Thank you for that.

The more I read your posts, and other ‘Catholics’ of similar view, the more convinced I become that some humans indeed had a common ancestor with apes!..but the primates have advanced further.

:cool:
 
John 10
1"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. 3The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice."
 
You seem to be forgetting, entirely, about the power of God.Peace,Ed
How am I forgetting it? It certainly is within the power of God to have created the human genome to appear as if it had evolved over millions of year. It is within the power of God to have created Yosemite Valley as if it had been carved by glaciers over hundreds of thousands of years. It is within the power of God to have created the galaxies to appear as if they are billions of years old.

I don’t think this is how God operates. If it is, the world might as well have been created in six days 10,000 years ago, and science would become nothing more than the parlour game of figuring out how God simulated the world to appear as we see it. It would no longer be the art of discovering how the world actually came to be.

StAnastasia
 
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