EVOLUTION: A Catholic Solution?

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I don’t see how God’s word is denied in Genesis when we are clearly told, “the morning and the evening were the third day.” Only those who believe in science, and science alone, have a problem with that. And because they only believe in science, they want others to view this as they do. That it is a “problem” is only a belief.

Peace,
Ed
 
I don’t see how God’s word is denied in Genesis
It isn’t. YE creationism is clearly denied in Genesis. The “life ex nihilo” doctrine of YE is incompatible with God’s word; He says the earth brought forth living things.
when we are clearly told, “the morning and the evening were the third day.” Only those who believe in science, and science alone, have a problem with that.
If, by “have a problem with that,” you mean “don’t take it as a literal history” then you are saying St. Augustine believed in science and science alone. Are you sure you want to assert that?
 
It isn’t. YE creationism is clearly denied in Genesis. The “life ex nihilo” doctrine of YE is incompatible with God’s word; He says the earth brought forth living things.

If, by “have a problem with that,” you mean “don’t take it as a literal history” then you are saying St. Augustine believed in science and science alone. Are you sure you want to assert that?
God said the earth did something? No. His Word did something.

You are always giving science as the only answer. That is what I’m saying. You believe that science has “discovered” something about the Bible. That is false.

Peace,
Ed
 
God said the earth did something? No.
Let’s take a look…

**Genesis 1:24 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done. **

Nope. You’re wrong about that.
His Word did something.
Of course. You just don’t approve of the way He did it.
You are always giving science as the only answer.
More false witness from Ed. What a surprise.
That is what I’m saying. You believe that science has “discovered” something about the Bible.
No. Science is beginning to show that God was right about the way life began.
That is false.
Not for a Christian. And you didn’t answer my question. St. Augustine “had a problem” with literal days of creation. Do you persist in arguing that he believed in “science and science alone?”
 
Exactly. God doesn’t have to work inside the box of natural laws, but Catholic evolutionists seem to insist that He must.
Show me. That statement seems to be mere fabrication. I don’t know one Catholic “evolutionist” who says that. Get used to the idea. He built the box. He can (and does) do what He wants with it. He can even, (as “evolutionists” have reminded you here) do a miracle or two, violating natural law, just to teach us things.

The truth matters. Please let it matter to you.
That God would only have created life in a manner we could comprehend.
He does most everything in this world by processes we can comprehend. Whether you approve or not really makes no difference.
 
Believe me, I understand that science is an extremely important and lifesaving thing. But certain things remain theory and not proven fact. The Big Bang is a theory for example. It makes sense, but there’s no way to prove it. Some things man will never know until the next life. In the mean time, I do thank God for science and those who devote their lives to it. 🙂
You seem not to understand the difference between “theory” and “fact.” Facts didn’t start out as theories, and theories don’t later become facts. Facts are what are observed, like things falling off tables, or species changing over time. Theories are attempted explanations of facts, such as gravity, or evolution.

StAnastasia
 
That must be the reason that they are so desperate to segregate science and God. Then they have a playground in which gluttony is not a sin.

God created us for the purpose of loving and serving him. I don’t recall any exception that Science should be exempt from this.
Excellent points, ricmat – and thanks for your comments also.

This story might be a perfect example of the problem we’ve been discussing:
Still worried that the Large Hadron Collider will create a black hole that will destroy the Earth when it’s finally switched on this summer?
Um, well, you may have a point.
The particle collider has no real function. These projects eat up enormous funds and resources and produce nothing of value. – and here we see the risk involved.

Humility, prudence and the desire to serve God would be enough to prevent these experiments in scientific curiosity. But such virtues are lacking. The race for the Higgs Boson (God Particle) is driven by a desire to support atheistic ideas.

These scientists are willing to risk the destruction of the earth in order to achieve their goals.

Now is someone going to say that “the Church shouldn’t interfere in science”? Or perhaps we will hear about how the Inquisition is basically the same as destroying the entire planet so Catholics are to blame also, etc.
 
Show me. That statement seems to be mere fabrication. I don’t know one Catholic “evolutionist” who says that. Get used to the idea. He built the box. He can (and does) do what He wants with it. He can even, (as “evolutionists” have reminded you here) do a miracle or two, violating natural law, just to teach us things.

The truth matters. Please let it matter to you.

He does most everything in this world by processes we can comprehend. Whether you approve or not really makes no difference.
Okay mate, you’ve made it clear you think I’m a moron. But please have a heart. After all, it might just be that you are traveling a bit further along on the evolutionary scale than myself. Have pity on a lesser creature. :bighanky:
 
The particle collider has no real function. These projects eat up enormous funds and resources and produce nothing of value. – and here we see the risk involved.
WOW! You really are anti science now aren’t you?!

The function is to get us closer to understanding the beginning of the universe. It’s all about understanding the smallest particles and how they behave which can lead to understanding how all the big stuff came to be.

Would you prefer that we just forget about trying to figure this stuff out?
 
Would you prefer that we just forget about trying to figure this stuff out?
According to the article I posted, the Large Hadron Collider could create a black hole that would destroy the Earth.

I guess you’re really anti-humanity, aren’t you?
 
According to the article I posted, the Large Hadron Collider could create a black hole that would destroy the Earth.

I guess you’re really anti-humanity, aren’t you?
No I am not at all anti humanity. The odds of that happening are infinitesimally small to non existent.

The positive gain potential is huge. You claim it is worthless. So back that claim up Reggie.

Your article was from Fox News. That’s not a scientific source, it’s a sensationalistic TV station.
 
No I am not at all anti humanity. The odds of that happening are infinitesimally small to non existent.

The positive gain potential is huge. You claim it is worthless. So back that claim up Reggie.

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It is worthless! If this isn’t man trying to play God, I don’t know what is. :nope:
What exactly is this potential gain you mention? How would accomplishing this make a bit of difference in anyone’s life or salvation? “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?”

“A large section of the Intelligentsia seems wholly devoid of Intelligence.” -G. K. Chesterton
 
No I am not at all anti humanity. The odds of that happening are infinitesimally small to non existent.

The positive gain potential is huge. You claim it is worthless. So back that claim up Reggie.

Your article was from Fox News. That’s not a scientific source, it’s a sensationalistic TV station.
It is worthless! If this isn’t man trying to play God, I don’t know what is. :nope:
What exactly is this potential gain you mention? How would accomplishing this make a bit of difference in anyone’s life or salvation? “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?”

“A large section of the Intelligentsia seems wholly devoid of Intelligence.” -G. K. Chesterton
 
It is worthless! If this isn’t man trying to play God, I don’t know what is. :nope:
What exactly is this potential gain you mention? How would accomplishing this make a bit of difference in anyone’s life or salvation? “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?”

“A large section of the Intelligentsia seems wholly devoid of Intelligence.” -G. K. Chesterton
The Large Hadron Collider Questions
  1. Is there a smaller Collider in existence? Or were those plans scrapped because of the Hadron Collider?
  2. What exactly is the potential gain of the Hadron Collider?
  3. What was the basis or source of Fox News Report about
    dangers? Who said what?
  4. Who is the P.R. representative of the Hardron Collider? In other words – where does one go to get official information?
  5. If these questions have been answered, please direct me to
    posts. Thank you.
Nightmare Thought:

What does evolution do to the purpose of Lent?:confused:

Blessings,
granny

All human life is worthy of existence.
 
Okay mate, you’ve made it clear you think I’m a moron.
You made a stupendously offensive (and absolutely wrong) accusation against Catholics who (like our Pope) accept evolution. I’m being charitable and assuming that you actually believed it.
But please have a heart.
Trust me, that was kind. Asserting that the Pope thinks God is constrained to natural laws is highly offensive.
After all, it might just be that you are traveling a bit further along on the evolutionary scale than myself. Have pity on a lesser creature.
Yeah, that kind of stuff. Would you be offended if I asked you to go and learn something about the subject?
 
It is worthless! If this isn’t man trying to play God, I don’t know what is. :nope:
What exactly is this potential gain you mention? How would accomplishing this make a bit of difference in anyone’s life or salvation? “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?”]
How did the discovery of the wheel, or the taming of fire, or the harnessing of electricity make a bit of difference in anyone’s life or salvation?
 
How did the discovery of the wheel, or the taming of fire, or the harnessing of electricity make a bit of difference in anyone’s life or salvation?
Wheel, fire, and electricity are not in the same class as the Hadron Collider.
 
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